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Why don’t they just make their own site?

I don’t understand why people put their entire livelihood in random sites that can change their rules at a whim.

It’s easier than ever in internet history to host your own site and take payments and basically do the entire thing yourself.

Of course you don’t get the visibility Etsy provides, but isn’t that what you sacrifice?




> Why don’t they just make their own site?

Why don't the buyers just make their own art? Because they're a different set of skills.


The buyers aren't going on strike and complaining about it, though. Not to mention the comparison doesn't make sense to begin with. The sellers are operating a business presumably.

From Etsy's point of view the etsy sellers are like the buyers from the etsy sellers point of view. Ultimately everyone is going to do what they can to maximize revenue from their end.

If this strike has any level of critical mass they'd just all leave and create their own thing. This is literally how Etsy itself came to be to begin with. It's just the nature of things. eBay sellers went on strike and all migrated over to Etsy. If this is that big of a deal, it's time to do it again.


Most of the stuff on Etsy isn't art.

But also - there are multiple easy alternatives to Etsy storefront.


Reliability, scale, general operations, security, convenience? Putting up a site is easy, yes. Keeping it up while your business is based on it, not so much.


Though TBH I wish the infrastructure was there such that this could be a viable option. I feel like we're inching our way there with "no code" products.


But apparently all of those things are worth nothing to Etsy sellers, as they are complaining about the costs.


There are literally sites that do everything except marketing for you. It really is easy if you're willing to pay.


"Do the entire thing yourself" is what you suggested in the GP. Now you're suggesting a site that "does everything except marketing for you." Those are very different suggestions.


No, what I'm saying is that you can purchase everything except marketing, and presumably the folks striking would handle the rest, so in sum, yes they could "do the entire thing yourself."

You should look up the history of etsy, it literally began by a mass exodus away from eBay. I'll never understand why people handcuff themselves and then complain about it. The question in the end if whether etsy is worth it to them after all of the fees, restrictions, etc. If so, continue, if not, move. Both the etsy sellers and etsy itself aim to maximize profit.


> I'll never understand

> The question in the end if whether etsy is worth it to them after all of the fees, restrictions, etc. If so, continue, if not, move

It seems you do understand after all, unless you are making the questionable claim that Etsy provides literally no value.

I think the crux of the matter here is that these sellers were previously happy with the tradeoff, and then Etsy changed the terms and they don't think it's worth it anymore. Getting angry and yelling about it in hopes of changing it rather than just shrugging and moving their whole business to another platform seems perfectly logical to me. The stuff with garbage resellers does seem like a really good point: Etsy is going to devalue themselves into the toilet if they don't do something about it and there is a mass exodus.


Complaining is worthless, if you're staying.

Businesses understand a hit to the bottom line, not some abstract strike manifest. So exodus is exactly the most efficient way of voicing your opinion to a profit seeking operation


Except there's a real cost to exodus, and complaining (along with a measurable-yet-easily-reversible impact like turning off sales) is an easy first step that only costs the temporary sales loss. So on the off chance enough people complaining and pausing sales causes the company to change their mind, an exodus that forces the sellers to do a bunch of store-rebuilding would have turned out to be a very inefficient method.

It's a statement trying to get the attention of the company. Nobody is claiming it's guaranteed to work. It's a desperate act for before you bail entirely.


it's hard to do (it requires a specific skillset), it requires capital investment (servers cost money), and you become fairly indiscoverable. these are surmountable problems given adequate money but without it, a major platform like etsy has a real moat.


Bringing customers to your own website is very costly and difficult. You will need to spend a lot in ads and convince your customers that you are legit.


Essentially it is what they are doing, except the website is still in "very early stages", so etsy has time to rethink




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