Ya know in the recent Pirates of the Caribbean films the character Captain Jack Sparrow is essentially pursuing eternal life in each movie. I wouldn’t say he’s the “bad” guy that kills others but he does make some questionable ethical choices at times.

I don't think that's a very unpopular opinion. Pretty much every religion gives you hope that you will not cease to exist, that death is just a transition. Some of them even promise you everlasting life on Earth. And that's a very strong motivation for their adherents to keep believing.

Those are all lies though! :D

I would rather increase my life-expectancy of 5 years with science than believing in an immortality based on religions whose fundamental books are full of things we have disproven.

Bible "on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made." No dude, if there ever was a god it would have not taken 6 standard rotations of our sun around our planet. There are billions of stars in our Universe, our Sun doesn't matter to God, home sapiens alone wouldn't particularly matter to God. That story is just completely nonsensical once you know basic astronomy.

So given how ridden of easily disprovable things are religious books, why should you trust them about anything at all? You shouldn't.

Throw away the fairytales books from thousands years ago and stop brainwashing next generations with it.

> Somehow these ideas are considered madness/evil by most people.

The way I see it is that we play a game with a set of rules, these rules are mostly unbreakable, I believe that wishing to break these rules is a one trip ticket to continuous disappointment. It's like wishing radio waves didn't exist, no matter how much you'll want it to happen it won't.

I think we should compose with what we have and make the best out of it instead of continuously wishing to have more, if not cancer it'll be dementia, cardiovascular disease, an accident, &c. you might tweak things here and there (vaccines, medicine, healthy lifestyle) but you'll never escape the inevitable; I actually don't believe most people really wish to live longer, there are many ways to lengthen/optimise your lifespan/healthspan and it is obvious that the vast majority of people aren't putting any effort into that, what's the point of living to 1000 ? we can already live to 90 but most people let their body rot well before they get to even half of that

I understand that nobody wants to die but it's a fact of life, it doesn't matter if you want to be immortal or not, what matters is how you approach death, do you let it consume your every thoughts or do you make the best of your time while awaiting it peacefully. Do you take it like a toddler: "I want Y !!!!" or like an adult: "X is happening, it is out of my control, I have to handle it and my the best out of the situation"

> No man can have a peaceful life who thinks too much about lengthening it. Rehearse this thought every day, that you may be able to depart from life contentedly; for many men clutch and cling to life, even as those who are carried down a rushing stream clutch and cling to briars and sharp rocks. -Seneca

From a health and lifespan perspective, we've been breaking these rules since the advent of modern science and medicine. 'Natural' things like incredibly high infant mortality and the death of the mother during childbirth are now relatively rare in developed countries. 150 years ago, a family may have accepted that 2 of their 7 children wouldn't live to age 18, but that's because they were ignorant of what is possible. More of a Stockholm syndrome than a rational belief.

Agree. It is my conclusion after a lifelong pursuit of knowledge, that life continues on the so called other side. We mess with the entrance and exit of this world at our own peril. I have myself been very close to death. So I know what it feels like. Do not let the fear of pain choose your path - and even inflict death on yourself or others. As a stoic myself, I can only support listening to Seneca. Life is precious. But do not cling to it. Live life and have passions. But do not get caught up in them.

> play a game with a set of rules, these rules are mostly unbreakable.

Our longevity isn't some fundamental law of physics.

Our longevity isn't the speed of light or absolute 0F.

There isn't written anywhere we are supposed to die at 20 or 40 or 100 or 1000.

I agree.

Come over to r/transhumanism mate :)

Don't mind if I do! :D