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They have already encircled a sovereign nation with their army and are moving in. Our "proportionate" response so far has been to shut down a couple of banks.

I'm not talking about a nuclear strike. All out nuclear war is clearly in nobody's interest (what's the point in ruling over a nuclear wasteland). Putin is relying on the fact that we are all so scared about that scenario that we will be weak in our support of Ukraine (and Latvia, Lithuania, Poland....).

China talks a good game now but how long do you think China will tolerate Russia bombing their most valuable customers?



depends on how much of the south china sea, bits of India and other neighbors they can grab while the west is busy in Europe.




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