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I'm still burnt by the fact that RedHat contributes so much code to Gnome that they basically control it. They made Gnome wholly dependent on systemd and this is how RHEL was able to influence every distro out there, of consequence, to adopt systemd as well. No systemd? Then you'd have to maintain your own patched fork of Gnome.

That aside, Gnome's UI is horrendous and can only be made better by installing tons of poorly supported extensions. It's like a lesser MacOS (and frankly, i despise MacOS's desktop as well).

KDE and XFCE aren't perfect, but as far as MacOS, Gnome, Windows 8.1, 10, and further, and other Linux desktop environments, KDE and XFCE blow them out of the water. Mate, Cinnamon and others just don't have the stability or functionality.

I'm not really enthusiastic about Gnome and KDE trying to bring stuff to mobile. It's been a fool's errand. Here it is, 2022, and they never captured a chunk of the desktop market.

The phone market at one point had Ubuntu (very very briefly), FirefoxOS (even more brief), Blackberry (gone), Android (multiple versions), Windows Phone (gone), and iOS.

All that's really left is iOS and Android. Google is looking to replace Android with an OS that lacks the Linux kernel. So what you got left? Pine phones? It's even more niche and more hobbyist than desktop linux was in 2001.

The year that linux makes any serious inroads into mobile will come just like the "year of the linux desktop" came. Which is never.

So we've ruined a perfectly good desktop environment and poured countless man-hours into KDE and Gnome for mobile and to what end? Why? WHo's going to use it? What's the point? What's there to accomplish?

Beyond some college kid being real proud of his Summer of Code project, nothing of note will materialize from this.




I wonder if people who develop those apps actually use them in real life, or do they simply treat it as yet another software development job. The latter could easily explain the problem: by failing to “scratch one’s own itch”.


I moved from being a Linux zealot during the late 1990's to just use it on the server room, because what I really cared was UNIX actually and ironically all commercial UNIXes have had a better desktop story on having a full development stack story and with exception of macOS all others are practically gone.

Ironically despite all my C remarks, XFCE is one of the best experiences on desktop Linux, followed by KDE.

Just to think that on a past life I did write articles promoting Gtkmm.




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