It’s not known for exactly how long the bucket was left exposed, but a text file left behind by an unnamed security researcher, dated September 2018, warned that the bucket was “not properly configured” which can have “dangerous security implications.”
So... this has been a known problem since 2018. Time to stop tilting at windmills.
If it's all theater, then it's worth pointing out the A/C/M times of files are easy to fake. A competent intruder can feather filesystem times and modify logs to point investigators toward the wrong conclusion.
> the timing of this seems to point to state sponsored hacking, no?
No.
The hack was obviously politically motivated, beyond that, nothing here points towards it being state sponsored. Non-state actors are equally motivated by the timing.
The idea that the Canadian government hacked GiveSendGo is also frankly ridiculous. Our government just isn't that lawless, and they could almost certainly get this data via legal means.
Both recent and historical evidence does not really support this claim. It is very very very easy to find many examples of governments breaking the law for their own benefit.
I don’t think it was the Canadian government either, but your logic does not seem good.
Both the words "our government" (i.e. the current canadian government), and "that" are doing work. Neither examples of random governments committing significant crimes, nor of the Canadian government committing less significantly corrupt crimes, contradict the premise.
There is ample evidence of the Canadian government breaking the law for their own benefit and there is ample evidence for these occurrences being “significant”.
And that’s not even taking into account that once trust is broken there are likely many more instances that aren’t known.
So by "significant" I'm excluding nonsense like this [1] where the government comes up with a creative (incorrect) interpretation of the law, and things like "a few rogue members of the government break the law" (e.g. [2]).
Neither of those would explain a government entity hacking this website to leak this data in an attempt to benefit the government.
I can't produce evidence that there isn't a history of actions like this, since my evidence really is just the lack of evidence. Thus I'd ask you to produce the "ample evidence" you claim exists.
One relevant example of the Canadian gov breaking the law and lying about it until they were caught was the 2007 Security and Prosperity Partnership protests in Montebello Quebec. In that case the government used agent provocateurs (provoking agents) who were dressed as protesters while initiating violence to paint the protesters in a bad light. The linked Wikipedia article lists several other examples. [0]
That said, I don't think the state was the responsible party for this attack.
> It is very very very easy to find many examples of governments breaking the law for their own benefit.
The current premier's father had feds planting explosive in people’s mailboxes [0] and tried to pin it on some political group he didn’t like back in the 70’s. Talk about a coincidence.
imo our government is probably lawless enough, but I doubt that it is competent enough to pull something off like that. The CSIS pays bad wages, their employees are mostly there for the cushy 9 to 5.
So incompetent they couldn't access an unsecured Amazon S3 bucket that was known to be insecure for some time? It sounds to me like GiveSendGo is simply incompetent with respect to security and some unskilled "hacker" took advantage of their incompetence.
It could be state sponsored hacking, but I think it's more likely to be don't by someone who got annoyed by the protests.
If I had trucks honking in front of my window, I'd do whatever I could to get them to fuck off as well. No need for the state to get involved if you just piss off enough random people.
Sweden's economy actually dropped harder than ours in Canada. The government was really generous, and while many especially in hospitality are worse off, few were truly devastated.
None of which are the supposed leaders of the manifestation, truckers, which actually did pretty well through all this - ask me why.
You know the reason why things aren't back to normal has little to do with mandates and a lot to do with the fact that, mandate or not, there was a deadly virus hanging around for two years and that's gonna change social behavior anyway?
Don't forget that 2 years of stress, angst, fear, new rules, normal hate of rules, etc. will make almost anyone stressed out and angry no matter how much they believe in the purpose behind it all, or how important it is.
Which when it's society wide, makes society stressed out and angry.
Stressed out and angry people do dumb and counter productive things. Sometimes even to the point of severe self harm.
Society when it is stressed out and angry tends to fragment and be less cohesive. Sometimes even to the point of severe self harm.
Wondering which side (or which sides there are, or why there even are 'sides') is doing the MOST dumb and counter productive thing is mostly part of the problem, not actually a solution, in the same way as a tired angry person trying to figure out who to yell at/blame, instead of getting some sleep or whatever.
Society wide, we need to do some serious self-care and calming the hell down - which would be nice, but good luck. So I expect we'll get a lot more fighting.
I live in a place where you can shit on restrictions all you want. Things aren't back to normal because people are still careful on how much they socialize and what the risk profile is. Things aren't back to normal because people have moved away from offices and it turns out a lot of people like that just fine, meaning a lot of old businesses have shut down, new businesses have opened up, and habits have changed.
The old world isn't coming back, ever. The world has changed. Even post-pandemic (which we are still far from over) I'm just gonna be more conscious about spending time in very closed spaces for extended time. The uncompromising are gonna sit a few things out even more. Also something like 0.5% of the population died and a few percentage points have ongoing long-COVID.
It's almost assuredly not done by someone who was directly 'annoyed' by the protests, that's a relatively small area, and hackers with skills are not that common.
The protests are an ideological touchstone, there are surely a lot of hackers in this world keen on 'exposing terrible people' (in their purview) and my money is on just some random 'hacker'.
I'm doubtful that it would be a government action, because those secrets are hard to keep and if it was leaked, the current political situation would collapse immediately. Trudeau & Co. would be gone for good. The details wouldn't really matter that much. I mean, he survived Blackface but he won't survive that kind of scandal.
That said, I'm pretty sure there was a de-facto systematic collusion between gov. offisials and GoFundMe etc. to shut down funding. The gov. can show GFM 'police reports' etc. and that can be used as a basis for cancellation. This is a bit problematic because all protests of a certain size have 'unlawful activity' and as soon as something is on the books, it's hard to put in context. This gives systems like GFM (or Apple, or Google or Amazon or VISA) the legitimate 'cover' to do kind of whatever.
I don't support the truckers, I see their TikTok's and they are rather uninformed antivaxxers, however, I kind of have to accept their right to protest.
Protesters in Portland literally took city blocks by force, threatened violence with serious weapons, two people died, there was tons of avoidable crime, police and rescue not allowed to enter etc. and they didn't seem to get quite the disdain that the truckers are, rather the press kind of just seemed to 'avoid them'. I understand every situation is different ... but still.
Truckers are dug in in Ottawa and Police are wary of confrontation, there's hints that the rank and file of Ott Police and RCMP are a bit sympathetic, and the Tow Trucker drivers are as well and don't want to face blowback. There is 'just enough empathy' among the Canadian public that it could 'tip in their favour' if we saw the firehoses or CS gas break out. It's definitely a very delicate political situation.
But in the end - Occam's Razor: some guy did this and leaked it, that's that.
> That's a relatively small area, and hackers with skills are not that common.
It is not some high end zero day they discovered. It is just a misconfigured s3 bucket. There are tools out there which scan for this kind of thing without any code required.
While some level of technical expertise is required, most developers could something like this if sufficiently motivated
>I'm pretty sure there was a de-facto systematic collusion between gov. offisials and GoFundMe etc. to shut down funding
No need to collude or conspire when everyone is already happy with each other's actions and everyone knows what the others want and which actions will step on their toes and which will be neutral or build good will.
Real collusion/conspiracy where there is actual communication between big actors like these is vanishingly rare. Behavior like "we set out price same as our competition's because why undercut each other" is dirt common.
I doubt someone who lived that close to the honking had the ability and chutzpah to do this.
After seeing how angry people got over Joe Rogan, I absolutely think there are militantly progressive people who are more concerned with the content of speech than the chilling effect of limiting free speech who would do this. Which isn't to say I agree with the Ottawa protesters or bridge blockaders; I think both went well outside the bounds of free speech.
This weekend a bunch of counter protesters went out and blocked a street in Ottawa to prevent new convoy protestors from entering the downtown core.[1]
I think if the ire of your neighbors has risen to the point that they'll go out and sit in -20C weather all day to stop you, it's not unlikely that someone would spend an afternoon poking at your website.
So is somebody physically blocking a bridge with a giant truck and refusing to move it less militant than somebody pulling their music off Spotify and writing a letter explaining their choice?
Why did you use the term “militant” to describe the side that is not using military tactics.
This is the standard right-wing strategy. Speak of your opponent exactly as you deserve to be spoken about. As long as you do it first, it makes accusing you of what you're actually doing less impactful, and sows doubt.
Basically, they know that one side is militaristic, and the other is not, but they side with the militaristic side ideologically, so they reflexively demonize their opponents with terms that better describe themselves, Knowing it's a bad look intentionally distancing themselves from the reality of what they stand for.
Yes. Disrupting supply chains is a thing militaries do. Regardless if they used guns or not. Militaries would love to win all conflicts with as few guns as possible. So if they could blockade a country with no guns at all, that would be ideal.
The point being made is that pulling one's music from Spotify is a personal choice about stuff you control.
Blocking bridges is forcing others who may not even be involved in your conflict to suffer the consequences of it. This is generally considered "a dick move".
Shutting down routes in and out of a city for such a selfish, delusional cause is well beyond what any rational person would call "civil disobedience". There is no basis for allowing the intentional permanent disruption of public resources and services to fight for a cause. You can't just filibuster society by sabotaging infrastructure like this.
With self-driving tech being a present reality, these truckers are just giving everyone a reason to automate them out of their jobs. A robot can't throw a tantrum, join a gang, and terrorize your city.
Why wouldn't they? I've heard they're all over city cores and you wouldn't think a socially inept tech worker or teenager in a toronto tower would get annoyed enough on a pure noise basis to do something like this?
I'd think it's far more likely that GiveSendGo doesn't have the most sophisticated and well maintained tech stack and an exploit was easily found by hacktivists engaging in defacement and doxxing.
Not only was this S3 public for reading but sounds like you could create & update as well since 2018. It contained "50 gigabytes of files, including passports and driver licenses".
Per the Tech Crunch article:
> It’s not known for exactly how long the bucket was left exposed, but a text file left behind by an unnamed security researcher, dated September 2018, warned that the bucket was “not properly configured” which can have “dangerous security implications.”
An open S3 bucket is a huge red flag that this feels state manufactured. Most people aligned with this protest probably possess the technical chops to know to do better.
Foreign support to this movement is not exactly a secret. They were waiving Trump flags, confederate flags and lots of MAGA signs were seen among the protesters. Also the movement has been publicized on Fox News and by famous right-wing people in the US, that's just normal that it would eventually lead to a lot of people in the US deciding to start donating. The simplest explanation is more likely than the conspiracy that the Canadian government had time to make up fake donations from the US.
This is a bit removed from your point about foreign support, but the flag thing appears to have been exaggerated for political purposes. The Confederate flag guy was shunned by the protestors and stood out like a sore thumb to begin with: https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1487834109678395392. (I'm not endorsing that Twitter account - it's the only link I know of to the video, and the video is interesting.)
It has also been commonly reported that the protestors are Nazis carrying Nazi flags, but this reporting is also excessively politicized. Here's a first-person account giving a completely different picture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtN4VqBeCMg#t=6932.
There are hundreds of hours of livestreams on youtube showing the protests. Anyone can dip in at random and get a sense. That's how I ran across that last link of the guy talking about the swastika flag. From the livestreams it seems clear that this is an authentic and peaceful working class protest, not some far right "insurrection" (a word that has also been chosen for political reasons). The most fascinating aspect of this event is what it reveals about the class divide in Canada, and the West in general, since each country has its own version of this right now.
> From the livestreams it seems clear that this is an authentic and peaceful working class protest
I would question the "working class" bit. Most of us on HN are office workers, who don't get out much, so we tend to assume anyone who works outdoors, including driving a truck, must be working class. But remember that every trucker participating in this protest has a truck to participate in: they are either owner-operators, or participating on behalf of trucking firm. Owner-operators are petite bourgeoisie; owners of firms are capitalists. Neither are working class, in an economic sense.
Really, when we office drones say the truckers are working class, what we actually mean is that they are rednecks. They come from rural areas, they probably don't watch the same TV shows as us, and perhaps they don't even drink speciality coffee. But you can be a redneck petit bourgeois, or a redneck capitalist!
> From the livestreams it seems clear that this is an authentic and peaceful working class protest, not some sort of far right "insurrection" (a word that has also been chosen for political reasons). The most fascinating aspect of this event is what it reveals about the class divide in Canada, or the West in general, since each country has its own version of this right now.
This is actually quite disingenuous. All it tells you is the general comportment of what people are doing around those livestreaming (who are almost all clearly marked).
What you aren't seeing or being exposed to in this way are the countless complaints of harassment, death threats, and rape threats the people living in this area are facing on a routine basis, even when the person being threatened was trying to help the protestors.[1][2][3][4]
As I've mentioned in other places, there's a lot of protests in Ottawa. It's the nation's capital and it's often a symbolic target if nothing else. Ottawa's citizens are familiar with protestors. This is a whole different ballgame.
In terms of it being working class, I think that's also a disingenuous label. As you can see in this walk through of the stopped convoy, there's VERY FEW actual big rigs participating, and the people here are largely driving recent pickups.[5] These are not put-out truckers, these are anti-vax/anti-mandate people from across the spectrum, and not a lot of them.
Was there any actual violence? If not then it was peaceful. Merely being armed certainly increases the capacity for violence, but it’s not violence in and of itself.
I’m not familiar with Canadian law on the subject, so I don’t know if possession of the items in question is unlawful or if there was some other cause for the arrests.
I think it's not the worst thing in the world for there to be visual elements inspired by the 2nd Amendment. If nothing else, it puts pressure on the government and shows that many free thinkers have solidarity with Canadians.
In Canadian terms it's politically one of the most foolish things you could do. There's little constituency for 2nd Amendment style gun rights in Canada, so they'd be sawing off the limb they're sitting on. And that's apart from whether they broke the law, which would also be politically foolish since it undermines their argument of civil disobedience. I don't know anything about the facts of this case though.
The point is that many other countries should adopt rights similar to the 2nd Amendment, because it has been proven to increase civil liberties with very few downsides. Canadians who refuse to do so are more likely to be trampled by big government.
planting a 'nazi/white nationalist' in protests and then having the media focus on it seems like such a obvious tactic now that it is making me question every time this kind of thing occurs.
For example, remember the recent election in Virginia where there was a ton of media retweets of a picture of a handful of 'white supremacists' in front of the tour bus for the Republican candidate. The media made a huge deal about it and the reporter who was on the scene made all kinds of absurd tweets about things she 'overheard' them say. However it didn't take long before people found pictures of the 'White Supremacists' working for the Democrat candidates campaign. One was even driving the tour bus!
That was a almost absurdy poorly executed attempt at a political smear but it really opened my eyes to how easy it is to insert bad actors into an event - especially when you have a complicit media.
How are the complicit media organized? Is there a secret WhatsApp thread going on between the hundreds of media organizations? Who runs the organization? How do they keep it a secret?
It existed, allowed the media to work together on how to represent certain issues, it stopped existing and there is a new version that replaced it? What did I miss?
I assume you are talking about Klein's statement regarding Tucker?
Honestly the odds that was a fed are pretty high. The father had feds planting explosive in people’s mailboxes [0] and tried to pin it on some political group he didn’t like back in the 70’s. Feds were forced to confessed when one got busted doing it, quite literally red-handed.
No, but if a bunch of people flying Peurto Rican flags swarm the Texas legislature it's probably reasonable to assume that there is a degree of support from people in Puerto Rico/outside of texas.
I think that most people mean "foreign" as foreign government (such as CCP) support, not just support from middle-class Americans (and Europeans) who identify with the protests and happen to be foreigners.
And while it could be that foreign governments have donated with false identities over GSG, it is more likely that they would send in people to figure out who is really capable of moving things, and contact them with cash, tips, and resources.
(I am not commenting on the envoy, as so far have only seen it in news outlets [such as CNN & NYT on the left and Fox on the right] who have not earned my trust - so I do not know what is really happening.)
As a Canadian I absolutely count donations from foreigners in the US and Europe as foreign money and absolutely think that that should be illegal (though I have no clue as to what the current legal status of that is).
Commenting only on the flags themselves and not the protest or the hack:
Canada is not part of the USA.
Trump was a President of the USA not Canada; the Confederacy was made from the bits of the USA furthest away from Canada; and while a literal interpretation of the word “America” in the initialism “Make America Great Again” would refer to the entire continent, it is usually understood as specifically just the USA and not Canada (and definitely not Mexico or Cuba let alone the rest).
Flags are widely used as a symbol of identity. Could be an (excuse the term, I can think of none other that fits) false flag, but there’s a reason why that term exists.
Honnestly, there's a lot more people moving from Canada to the US than the reverse. Maybe there's a desire to embrace the American way (of course, the state media won't touch it!).
When hiring, we get a ton of resumes from Canada to transfer to the US but the reverse almost never happens.
I’ve just looked up the numbers, about 810k Canadian-born people in the USA (2017) and 377k US-born people in Canada (2016).
Adjusting for population sizes (USA has ~9 times the population), a random Canadian is about 4 times more likely to go south than a random American is to go north.
But there’s a reason I was focusing on just the symbolism, and that’s that I know how limited my knowledge is in this instance.
The protest is super unpopular in canada. It could just as easily be a random canadian citizen who is pissed about the protest and wants to prove that the protest is not grass roots but foreign meddling.
The polls I've seen had ~half of Canadians sympathetic to the protests [1], and about 20% strongly supporting. It's completely true that it could be one highly motivated individual, but that has nothing to do with your first assertion (which is a mixed truth at best). I think that the government's claim (echoed by many media outlets) that this is purely a fringe movement has added fuel to the fire.
The polls roughly match. About 1 in 4 support the goals and methods, 1 in 4 support the goals but not the methods, and 2 in 4 don't support the goals or methods
24% of 18-34 and 34-55 support the truckers and what they are doing
27%/26% support them but not the way they are doing it
49%/50% think they are completely wrong and need to be stopped regardless
There's no real difference between young and middle age, although over 55s skew significantly to "stop them". Not much difference on income, but educational attainment shows significant skew, with university educated far less likely to support the truckers
> An Ipsos poll published Thursday and conducted exclusively for Global News showed that nearly 46 per cent of Canadians say they “may not agree with everything” the trucker convoy says or does, but the frustration of protesters is “legitimate and worthy” of sympathy.
I don't think your statement is at odds with gp's. A legitimate concern doesn't make it popular.
However, the greater issue is a lack of organization and so nothing (very little) is going to get done (much like with BLM).
The best thing ruin collective disputes is to add more noise and discourse so that the original cause is lost in the shuffle and the majority just sit back and shrug. "I can get behind solving one problem at a time, but when they're shouting for 20, I can't be bothered to care."
Had the parent post said merely “unpopular”, I’d probably agree. However “super unpopular” to me feels aligned with the government message that this is a tiny fringe minority, which quite frankly, is dishonest.
Re: getting things done, so far it seems counter-productive in the sense that now the government doesn’t want to seem “weak” and relax restrictions, even though it’s what reasonable governments are doing at this point. I’m not going to put this at the feet of the organizers (whoever they are); it simply deepens my already deep disappointment with the Canadian government since thats a political move.
They have an NGO, some directors and a lawsuit they are working on for constitutional challenge against the mandate by one of the Constitution drafters.
There's sympathy shown in the polls (Canadians are a sympathetic people!) but the polling shows a pretty clear super majority of people that want the protesters to go home (Canadians don't like disorder).
The protest is super unpopular among certain politicians, certain state sponsored media, and certain supporters of those politicians and media. However, there are a very large number who support ending all lockdowns and mandates immediately - as evidenced by their ability to raise money, repeatedly, as well as by the physical presence of so many supporters across the globe.
That said, I agree this is most likely the work of an individual. For all its usefulness in raising money, GSG has probably never been subjected to a real-world pentest by a highly motivated attacker. Not to mention the legions of attackers one would expect from such a polarising subject. This was unfortunate but entirely predictable.
Unpopular with wealthier people who are inconvenienced, very popular amongst what the media like to call 'populists' - ie the people who deliver the rich people's chattels
Maru polls show very little difference between income levels. Of all the different demographics, the one with the most support for the goals and means of the truckers is Alberta residents, where about 1 in 3 support them and their means, and 1 in 2 don't support them at all
It's all down to how a poll accurately frames a question:
Do people like restrictions? No, nobody likes restrictions.
Do people like restrictions that save lives? Still don't 'like' them but believe sacrifice is necessary for the greater good.
Do I support people's right to protest? Yes, but...
You can't honk all night
Block major infrastructure for days
Desecrate war monuments
Flood 911 with fake calls
To play devil's advocate, and provide another (intentionally) biased framing:
Do people want to continue with restrictions that have pushed the opioid epidemic to a new high [1]. Pushed mental health in youth to 'completely unsustainable' levels [2]. Stolen normal development/socialization from children & young adults using restrictions that were not always clearly evidence based [3]. And, all this considering the current outlook of the virus is far more positive than it once was.
The Angus Reid poll phrased their question like this, for anyone interested:
>It's time to end restrictions and let people self-isolate if they're at risk.
Or even more specifically: Do I like restrictions? No. Do I want restrictions to end? Yes. Do I want all restrictions to end now? No. Do I want any restrictions to end now? Maybe.
>Do I support people's right to protest? Yes, but... You can't honk all night Block major infrastructure for days Desecrate war monuments Flood 911 with fake calls
I suspect how much people support "people's right to protest" is directly proportional to how much they support The Cause. If they don't support The Cause, they want protesters to be as out of the way as possible (ie. "free speech zones"). If they do support The Cause, anything up to and including violence/vandalism is justified, because a few causalities would be canceled out by all the positive effects that The Cause would bring.
That's about what I expected — nothing warranting “very popular”, and most of the gap shown is going to come down to what percentage of even people who do want some or all public health measures suspended approve of doing so outside of the democratic process.
The claim can be proven or disproven with elections.
But I think that Trudeau would win rather easily pitted against this extremist, apparently foreign funded fringe.
Even Canada's conservatives don't want to be associated with them anymore.
Conservatives are tabling a motion for a vote on removal of restrictions today.
They’ve just performatively asked truckers to leave, so that they can always point to that later in their election campaign. Why would they want them to leave?they don’t.
I'm not a conservative mind you, but if your goal is to eventually get elected, you probably want to win on topics that will actually gain you votes vs. those that take them away.
This is a wedge issue, and as such they're casting their votes to alienate a huge (likely majority) of voters away from your platform before the leader has even been selected.
Secondly, this protest has been a huge news vacuum attracting non-stop coverage. This is bad for a party that needs to drum up any support for a leadership race to carry them more seats in the next election. By the time this plays out, the conservatives could be half way through their election and most Canadians may not even know the candidates.
We all know that elected officials rarely get elected based on what they've actually done. They get elected by parroting the empty promises their party bosses tell them too.
Plus, politicians who do vote against their constituents' wishes can run in a district that's more friendly to that vote.
Given the unfair media coverage, is it any wonder?
There seems to be, including in your own post, a lot of ad hominem attacks ("one person had a confederate flag! some people in the US support the cause too! this means it's totally evil") rather than addressing the human rights the protestors are fighting for, and it's a shame. But it's no surprise given the opposite media coverage for the opposite type of protest (violent riots) two summers ago.
Also, "the state" seems to tacitly support the protests. Others have rightly pointed out, that had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive. So it's kind of hard to see why they'd do it this way rather than taking a much more direct approach.
I have no doubts that the true culprits for this hack will be found and the punishment will be orders of magnitude worse than anything the truckers will receive.
>had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive
Recent history does not support this view.
When left-wing railway blockades shut down the entire CN rail network, there was no "brutal and decisive" response. It took the better part of a year to resolve, and the OPP didn't enforce the court ordered injunction CN got, and the Liberal government was meeting frequently with the protestors.
Even though many Anglo left-wing groups are sympathetic to, and act in solidarity with the First Nations, is it accurate to label indigenous protesters as left-wing protesters? How united was the left when the Mohawks stood in the way of Quebecois nationalism? Perhaps it is imprecise to conflate incipient nationalist groups within Canada with "left-wing."
Are there non-authoritarians that want jab mandates so badly that they will hack websites to doxx innocent protestors? Could be, I haven't met any (thankfully)
Plenty of people may not want jab mandates, may not be authoritarians, but are in earshot/irritation reach of the protests. And considering how badly the information was secured, pretty much anyone who knows anything about an S3 bucket seems like they could have done it. Not even really hacking.
Supporting vax mandates doesn't make someone part of the "state". Plenty of people that are not part of the government support mandates.
You're also assuming that support for mandates would be the only motive: While less likely than mandate support, someone may simply have been very angry that their life had been turned to chaos & misery by the protestors.
> the timing of this seems to point to state sponsored hacking, no?
what does hack timing have to do with the state? I don't follow your logic at all. I would never make that connection. It's just an insecure website and server, anyone can run their testing suite and have gotten the same info. Why rationalize incompetence with state sponsored?
I'm really about to sell some Q branded coffee mugs to everyone with an email address in this leak, so fckin gullible.
There's plenty of techies in Ottawa with the means, motives and opportunities to perform this action. People over there are quite annoyed at the truckers, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's someone related who's annoyed at the whole situation. No need for state sponsorship to find poorly secured data.
wouldn't take state sponsored hacking to do this to most startups, probably just a few people using open source tools to look for basic stuff
people love to dunk on companies in situations like this but probably 95% of startups would get hacked like this if the MSM put a bunch of attention on them and made them a target. Even huge companies get pwned due to basic security issues
The gov't doesn't need to crack in this case. They shut down the funds through the courts. These "donation" sites (gofundme/givesendgo) are going to be scrutinized much more closely from this point forward.
