Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

Killing strangers for minor violations of your property rights... killing multiple strangers in a rage of entitlement... calling police to kill or punish strangers who are having mental health crises for minor violations of public behavior ordinances... basically killing or punishing strangers for any old reason. I'd venture to guess we do orders of magnitude more of it per capita in the West than people in Muslism countries do honor killings of kin.



> Killing strangers for minor violations of your property rights

You give no examples. Also I'm in the UK and can't remember the last time anyone was killed for trespass or other minor violations (okay, one or two over a decade I think).

> killing multiple strangers in a rage of entitlement

You give no examples. Post some evidence, overall numbers of such cases, details please.

> calling police to kill or punish strangers who are having mental health crises for minor violations of public behavior ordinances

You give no examples - post summary details.

> basically killing or punishing strangers for any old reason. I

You give no examples.

> I'd venture to guess

so no evidence whatsover

> we do orders of magnitude more of it per capita in the West

The US is not 'the West'. Perhaps you'd like to consider the UK, Germany, Scandinavia....

I suspect you're right in thinking honour killings aren't common (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour_killing_in_Pakistan#Pre...> "The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan lists 460 cases of reported honour killings in 2017, with 194 males and 376 females as victims"), but it's the extreme point of a pervasively oppressive/intolerant system which can ruin lives without actually killing people.


The US is not 'the West', but it's certainly an example of the

> extremes in the behaviors of people with Western, liberal-individualistic belief systems

I can think a of few similar non-US examples of the above behaviors, but he's already answered the original question.


> The US is not 'the West', but it's certainly an example of the

Yes, I take your point, he was talking of that specific subset, not (as I read it) the west in general.

> ..but he's already answered the original question.

Within that specific subset, I'd agree he has. Thanks.




Consider applying for YC's Spring batch! Applications are open till Feb 11.

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: