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My experience in case it helps:

Open it up, looks like mobile only. I do my planning an organizing on my big desktop monitor with good keyboard so this is a no go

Wants my email a lot. Maybe this guy is harvesting Hacker News emails

Subscription model. I hate those because I always forget to cancel. Besides I have free and open source note takers that are pretty good. Not everything I want but good.

Someone asked about Desktop further down in comments so you gave them a link

https://cloverapp.com/download

Download a large Electron app. Windows 11 refuses to run it because it's untrusted but I are smart and know how to get around that

If can do an Electron app why not just make it a website for people to try?

Asks for my email again.

It wants to connect to me Google Calendar and Email. It looks like a simplified interface to those two tools.

Sketchpad is an interesting idea. They've been tried since the 90's but maybe these guys got it right.

edit: I use Obsidian. They got me to become addicted to their software by having no fanfare or ceremony and allowing me to see what's great about it right away by trying it. It opens to a big download button. It doesn't ask for email. It's free forever for personal use.




> I use Obsidian. They got me to become addicted to their software by having no fanfare or ceremony and allowing me to see what's great about it right away by trying it. It opens to a big download button. It doesn't ask for email. It's free forever for personal use.

I know other people are giving you shit for this, but I'm exactly the same way. Combined with Syncthing, other software (particularly paid stuff like this) doesn't look even remotely capable in comparison. People hydroplane over the essentials and then act surprised when their unicorn app isn't the runaway success it should have been.

Dear Notes Apps:

Everyone else has already done you, and better. If you want to compete (like, actually compete), you have to match them on features and be better somehow. Things like being "cloud-based" are not selling points; they're detriments when compared to your competitors.


Hey thanks for checking us out. We do have a web app available that can be accessed here https://app.cloverapp.com/login. We are cloud based which is why we require you to create an account to use the app. With that being said we offer a free plan (that has some limitations) and a free Pro plan trial (with no credit card required) so you can try out all the Pro features beforehand. Hope that helps!


I definitely will. The sketch feature could be really useful.


>Besides I have free and open source...

Waiting for the obligatory Dropbox comment here.


Not from me. I personally don't need Dropbox but I can see the utility if a company want to share a 1 TB storage area between employees. I'm guessing that's how it's used since I've never used it.


>Besides I have free and open source

I took a look in my note taking bookmarks folder to see what I meant. I thought Obsidian was open source but it's not. I was thinking of Joplin, which I haven't tried yet, but will today

https://joplinapp.org/


Joplin is excellent. I'm a very happy user. But I also use my own WebDAV server to sync. It would be nice if they supported Seafile as a sync target, but they do currently support Nextcloud.




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