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It should be worth remembering that we don't need trials anymore to predict what the results of vaccinating millions of people should be. We have already done that. Indeed, by looking at the results of actual vaccination, we can find things that have happened that won't be found in trials, because 1-in-a-million events aren't going to be found in trials. (Risk of myocarditis, for example, is something that's been found with actual vaccination.)

... so if you're claiming a risk is clearly visible in the trials, you should consider if the actual experience in mass vaccination actually bears that risk out. And if it doesn't, well, there's a good chance you simply misinterpreted the trial data.



It's extremely hard to extract meaningful insight from population data, because it's massively confounded.

Recently some locations locations have reported omnicron case _rates_ being higher in the vaccinated population than unvaccinated. Your logic would have us conclude that the vaccination increases the risk of becoming a covid case with this strain.

... in reality, the vaccinated population is likely more at risk and the vaccine protection isn't enough to offset the difference. But it's extremely hard to tell, which is why RCTs are so important.

Those one in a million events also don't get found outside of trials: They go unreported because outside of trials surveillance is very low, or if noticed they'll get attributed to something other than vaccination because without a control group you can't establish a baseline rate narrowly enough to attribute it to the treatment with any confidence.


Yes, and it's worth noting that the FDA, CDC, NIH, as well as their international counterparts, ALL missed the quite significant myocarditis side effects, especially in younger, fitter, men. It wasn't until the DoD had crippled thousands of its own warfighters (possibly for life) that that particular nasty side effect came to light.

It's looking increasingly likely that there are a great many other side effects that may only become obvious on a long term basis - by definition we still can have NO IDEA what the long term risks of these never-before-tried "vaccines" may be.

Bill Joy was absolutely right - biotech and genetic engineering is BY FAR the most dangerous technology on the planet, and we're seeing that play out to our horror right now - there is no way to stuff this gene-ie back in the bottle!


The vaccines caused myocarditis at roughly the rate of ~1 in 100,000 in young males. The DoD isn't large enough to have thousands of people with myocarditis at that occurrence rate, even assuming every single case results in "crippled ... (possibly for life)" (which it doesn't).


I'm going to call bullshit on your claim that the vaccine "crippled" thousands of service people.




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