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I would be interested if you could comment on this further, if not here then maybe in a blog post. Do you mean deeper ability to manipulate the whole underlying system, rather than being confined mainly to the VM?

I put that idea forward because I’ve seen people working with the Emacs/Common Lisp combo wishing for something like that… that it was Lisp all the way down like an old Lisp machine. Seems like some are looking towards GNU Guix to approximate that sort of system.

For what it’s worth, I’m prepping myself to spend the next couple years at least exploring interactive programming systems like these, so perspectives like yours are fascinating to me. I’m not looking for a programming job any time soon (or maybe at all), so I’ve got time to study most seem to think is “alien technology.”




No, sorry. I meant in user polish. Squeak/pharo for me are a mess. The code browser has a variety of inconsistent and frankly just too many menu options. So it becomes not just live code experiment, it becomes a live user interface experiment at the same time. This kind of thing leads to “too many experiments/agendas at the same time” effect (for me).




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