You think the iceberg is coincidentally only as deep as what we've presently heard? That we didn't have the full story yesterday, but today we definitely do?

Well I hope you're right, but I don't think you are.

>You think the iceberg is coincidentally only as deep as what we've presently heard?

No, but I think the US intelligence agencies are fully aware of where they're hiding the iceberg and could destroy it before it rises to the surface.

Well how do you know the NSO hasn't replaced the sitting US President with a very convincing android?

I mean, they are a very skilled set of engineers. You seem to grant them being able to hold onto very powerful secrets and use them for active blackmail. You even believe they've been operating actively against the US government for several years.

If they can do all that, then replacing the sitting US president with a very convincing android isn't much harder! It is just as likely as the situation you propose.

I can believe that a foreign hacking group, who can zeroclick the most widely used personal device to obey a remote control center, who sells this service to totalitarian regimes and to corrupt governments, has exfiltrated as much data as they can. They are careful enough to cover their tracks as part of the service.

What I cannot believe is you dismiss concern over ongoing security risks, however exagerated, by suggesting a head of state might have been replaced by an android. Please don't troll.

NSO is skilled at hacking androids, not making them. You know that; you are arguing in bad faith.

Watch the movie "Snowden" if you're actually in disbelief and not disinformation.

I doubt we will see convincing androids in any of our lifetimes.

How about this senerio though.

I heard our President yak about his accomplishments this morning. I was half asleep, but felt his voice sounded different. I thought maybe just hoarse, or I was wrong about his voice.

I was thinking about his appearance. I don't know if I would recognize him if he walked up to me on the street without the suit.

Ok the Hollywood script.

Joe biden goes into a hospital. He only wants certain Secret Service personnel around.

His boy, and wife, are tragically killed in a plane accident.

Joe decides he needs grieving time.

The year before all this happens the NSO finds a lookalike Joe Biden, and performs all the necessary surgery.

A few more weeks pass, and the switch is performed. The real Joe is gone. The fake one is in power.

Then China, or Russia, have control.

(I guess if there was suspicion--the FBI could perform a dna test though? I think someone did this in a movie.)

> that they have the deep dirt on every sitting congress member

Not all but do you really believe that the NSO group wont have some blackmail material on at least some US politicians?