I have been getting the sense that this is a continuation of Trumpers vs. Democrats, and their respective apologists throughout the west. Whatever the hell this is, it's getting hot and if we don't figure out a way to cut through the shit it's going to get worse.

I'm all ears for a civilized discussion, but until we can agree on some epistemic framework (or narrative) we're not going anywhere except where the current ruling class pushes us.