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The future looks grim with governments mandating health procedures on the population against their will


I'd rather be vaccinated than someone force Covid on me. To me, if you choose to be unvaccinated, you are showing how little you care about those around you and how little you care if they die.


Those around me, or are vaccinated so it does not matter, or chose not to be vaccinated in which case also does not matter

I would rather no one forces anything on anyone


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I'm not sure how I'm supposed to have more than basic compassion - the same I have for humanity - for folks that aren't showing compassion for others. It is a free vaccine.

I do not extend this judgement to folks that aren't healthy enough. I'm judging folks by choices, just like you are judging me by my choice to speak my mind.


I'm not telling you to love anyone.

I'm saying that equating those that choose against the vaccine to being "selfish and lacking compassion" is wrong and dangerous.


But it is in fact selfish, and dangerous to others, to choose against the vaccine when you can get it for free and you are healthy.

It is that simple. It is wrong and dangerous to ignore the impact of your choices on those around you.


You know what else is selfless, free, and easy?

Self quarantining. We know for a fact this works.

You can't spread the virus if you don't come in to contact with others -- minus animal transmission.

Given the vaccinated can still get infected and spread the disease, it begs the question if they're not being totally selfish by not self quarantining at the expense of everyone else?


> Given the vaccinated can still get infected and spread the disease, it begs the question if they're not being totally selfish by not self quarantining

Nothing about preventing disease is "all or nothing", it's all about risk reduction, which is why vaccines are important.

Total quarantine for everyone is obviously unworkable, so suggesting that vaccinated people do "Self quarantining" is not a workable alternative to practical risk reduction measures such as vaccination and masks.

This is nonsense, and misdirection.


All kinds of vaccines have been mandatory for generations. You wouldn't have been allowed to attend school if you hadn't had loads of them. In the US for instance all schoolchildren are required to be vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, varicella, measles, and rubella, and almost all states also require vaccinations against mumps and hepatitis B. So please don't act like requiring vaccination is some unprecedented erosion of personal liberty, because it just plain isn't.


All kinds of vaccines are also not required, namely the flu vaccine, which covid arguably has more in common with than any of the other diseases above.


Which is completely beside the point since the post I was replying to is apparently bemoaning vaccine mandates generally as some unprecedented new development, which again, they aren't. If you want to have a discussion about whether this particular vaccine should be mandated, fine, but that's not at all what the person I was replying to was trying to do; they were complaining about mandates of any kind, and apparently don't know that mandates are as old as dirt and just as common.


however, in a hospital setting they are required, by government mandate.


I guess it depends what part of the world you're in, but flu vaccines are not mandated in hospitals here in the US.

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/flu-vaccine-requir...




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