Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN, and please especially don't post supercilious dismissals of the community. Such perceptions are nearly always in the eye of the beholder and make such comments particularly tedious and degrading. That's why the site guidelines include: "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community."
Edit: it looks like you've been doing this repeatedly—can you please stop that, and stick to posting thoughtful contributions to whatever discussion is at hand?
I understand the need/temptation to posture defensively against the community/the masses/idiots/society/whatever—I don't mean this pejoratively; I think literally all of us do it—but because it's such a mechanical reaction, it makes for particularly low-quality comments.
Please actually post arguments and not just dismissals. Nobody in this conversation is anti-vaxx, but this fantasy of "If we vaccinate X more, covid will not be a problem" simply does not align with reality. The vaccines are effective, but they are not flawless, and we are dealing with a very high R0 disease that is changing.
When we have 100% coverage of all age groups.. we will still have covid hospitalizations. We will still have covid spread. We may still even sometimes need to wear masks and have lockdowns.
You should still get vaccinated and get boosters, but no vaccination rate is going to make this go away anymore than the flu shot has eliminated the flu.
The difference is that the load on hospitals will be far lower, which means better care for people that are hospitalized for covid, and people who need to be in the hospitals for other reasons.
Unfortunately, this may have been true in 2020, but at this point the rate of SNPs (mutations) creating VoCs (variants of concern), plus the break-through infection rate, strongly suggest that no level of herd immunity (even 100%) will lead to suppression. At this point we'd all be better off focusing on ways to slow the spread.
- Denmark currently experiencing a massive new wave of infections
- Previous large wave of infections was last winter, with rate peaking on Dec 18
- Daily deaths peaked one month later at about 8 per 1000 daily infections
- Current daily deaths, accounting for lag, is also about 8 per 1000 daily infections
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...