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remarkably, those who bash him are the same people twitter has done everything to bend over backwards for. same on reddit, facebook, twitch, etc.

people on the opposite side of the privileged class are barely allowed to exist on those platforms - only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some perceived offense committed off-platform.




> people on the opposite side of the privileged class are barely allowed to exist on those platforms - only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some perceived offense committed off-platform.

I'm having trouble understanding what any of this means


Parent is saying that these platforms cater to left leaning reactionaries ("social justice warriors"), and that people on the opposite side (conservatives) are far more restricted, but most of the criticism comes from those same left leaning reactionaries about the sites not further restricting the already-restricted side.


What is it that conservatives are not able to say on Twitter due to restrictions?


There's this: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/medical-misin...

Also this: https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-ny-post-remains-...

Zero hedge was locked: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-bans-zero-hedge-coronav...

Trump was deplatformed of course, so everything he has to say.

Search through this for examples, I see a lot of ctrl-F "right" results fwiw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_suspensions


I don't think that there is anything inherently "conservative" about misinformation about a disease in the midst of a pandemic. If Biden decides tomorrow to claim COVID is a hoax, vaccines have microchips, drinking bleach cures COVID, or attempts a violent coup against the government, it'd be fair game to ban him from the platform, regardless of whether he's considered "liberal" or "conservative."

I did go through the "Ctrl-F" for the link, and it was a list of terrorists, Holocaust deniers, neo nazis, and hate speech. I don't think being a conservative necessarily entails any of these things either, even if they are often linked to being "*-right."


Ahh you weren't really asking, just trying to prove a point that conservatives are allowed to speak freely on twitter, as long as they don't accidentally set off a COVID misinformation ML classifier in their criticism of a gov't COVID policy, or have enough people flag their posts as misinformation.

I guess i should have just responded with the NYPost thing, which is the only thing I recalled initially, given it was particularly egregious right before an election and even Dorsey admitted it was a mistake: https://nypost.com/2020/11/17/jack-dorsey-admits-lockout-of-...


>Ahh you weren't really asking, just trying to prove a point that conservatives are allowed to speak freely on twitter, as long as they don't accidentally set off a COVID misinformation ML classifier in their criticism of a gov't COVID policy, or have enough people flag their posts as misinformation.

It's hard to convey intent over text, but I couldn't be more genuine in my curiosity. Accidentally setting "off a COVID misinformation ML classifier" is a legitimate concern. Are otherwise appropriate posts being misclassified as misinformation? And wouldn't that be of concern to folks across the political spectrum? Same goes for flagging posts; this seems like a concern that isn't restricted to a single political position.


Well there's a lot of "conservative" aka right-wing American complaints about twitter silencing their voices for political reasons, some of them are just trolls who were being jerks bellyaching, but some do have a scent of legitimacy to me. It's all gray area really, personally you can read about some of the people banned on that list (cntl-f "conservative" = 24 results) or the NY post situation if you like and decide for yourself.

I personally think these media platforms are evolving policies that will be enforced selectively (e.g. NYpost account frozen for writing a story involving "hacked" materials) based on the bias of the people enforcing the rules (well that's really a violation of our policies, but that other post isn't because of nuance, that nuance really just a reflection of bias in either the classifier, or human being making final judgement call).


> only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some perceived offense committed off-platform

Not sure what you're talking about. Can you provide examples/evidence?


there's no way I can be more specific without getting [flagged][dead]. this isn't my first throwaway.


If you really want to post about how vaccines make your blood cells broadcast 5G radio waves, you can go make a Parler account regardless of whether you get "unpersoned" (?) by Twitter.

Twitter's rules enforcement is historically EXTREMELY casual, the only thing I can think of is that they are relatively consistent about punishing death threats regardless of context. Even then, they let some of that slide. Very often a rules violation just results in a tweet being deleted or marked with a disclaimer, not a ban - few services would treat rules violations that way.


>If you really want to post about how vaccines make your blood cells broadcast 5G radio wave

oh, that's a great example, actually. as far as I vaguely recall from the times before the pandemic, expressing skepticism or criticism towards the government and corporations was not against the rules.

>Twitter's rules enforcement is historically EXTREMELY casual

yes - for the privileged class, twitter does indeed "let some of that slide".




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