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> This is gonna be some hefty GDPR fines in Europe.

I keep hoping this is gonna be the case, but the years roll on, I'm still clicking some stupid consent-popup on every single website I ever visit, and in the meantime TV manufacturers continuously spy on their users, sell their user-data, and push unwanted ads into their interface and even in programs being watched, and apparently no-one (apart from a few of us on HN) seems to care.



Because people keep buying them and no viable competitive manufacturing capability exists in the West anymore.

Soon it will violate the warranty not to plug it into the network. Probably for “security” or to protect the children.


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For what it's worth, at least on my Swedish model, this seems to be gated behind an opt-in (default off!) consent toggle. It was buried in several layers of menus, and not even mentioned during the setup process.

So I would assume that this is mostly an issue in non-GDPR regions (or they're doing some really ugly legal shenanigans to ignore the denied consent?).


"We have a '''legitimate interest''' in getting your personal info, because we want to sell it to third parties"

https://www.gdpreu.org/the-regulation/key-concepts/legitimat...

> Legitimate interests is most appropriate as a lawful basis where companies use personal data in a way that individuals can reasonably expect. If it impacts individuals, it can still apply if the controller company can justify there is a compelling reason for the impact the processing will have.

> Companies can rely on legitimate interests for marketing purposes if they can prove that the data usage is proportionate and fair to the user. It must have a minimal impact on the user in privacy terms and be for a reason that people would not be surprised at.

Sadly I would reasonably expect Samsung to sell the data and I would not be surprised by it.




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