OP is probably making some kind of reference to this: https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n954 I think they’ve got things a bit mixed up re the spike protein being the crucial element, though.
We now know beyond doubt that the risk of blood clots associated with any of the major vaccines is tiny, and very probably zero. Despite a lot of scare stories in the media, there has never really been any good evidence of a link at all.
To suggest at this point that any of the vaccines used in the West is “kind of dangerous” is just to say something obviously untrue. If the vaccines were dangerous we’d be seeing their harmful effects on a massive scale by now.
>> If the vaccines were dangerous we’d be seeing their harmful effects on a massive scale by now.
That's a bit all-or-nothing. There have been cases of bad reactions to them (small scale). That's not my point though, and to be clear I'm not anti-vax, just wondering if the spike proteins actually cause damage, possibly cumulative. I don't recall where I got the idea that they are responsible for damage though.
The viral infections don't make the perfect amount of spike protein for every complete viral particle that comes from the cellular infection, when the cell bursts open plenty of spike proteins and other partially assembled viral components are put into the blood stream.
I'd think that if the spike protein was causing the reactions you mentioned we would have seen the spike protein is dangerous. An active infection is going to make more free floating spike protein in your body than the RNA vaccine ever did.
It’s not all or nothing. It’s the only sensible conclusion that can be drawn after hundreds of millions of vaccinations. We know that the associated risks are tiny. There is always a non-zero risk from being injected with anything at all, but there is no reasonable sense in which COVID vaccines are “dangerous”.
> and to be clear I'm not anti-vax, just wondering if the spike proteins actually cause damage, possibly cumulative. I don't recall where I got the idea that they are responsible for damage though.
If you can’t even remember the source, it’s maybe not such a great idea to spread these sorts of unfounded rumors in the middle of a public health crisis.
We now know beyond doubt that the risk of blood clots associated with any of the major vaccines is tiny, and very probably zero. Despite a lot of scare stories in the media, there has never really been any good evidence of a link at all.
To suggest at this point that any of the vaccines used in the West is “kind of dangerous” is just to say something obviously untrue. If the vaccines were dangerous we’d be seeing their harmful effects on a massive scale by now.