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I like the angle of "Sorry, Apple ID only works on Apple devices." The rest of the popup seems unprofessional and would make me reconsider using the software, out of fear for what other unprofessional things may end up happening.

But the bit I highlight is a nice jab at Apple and something I think you can get away with professionally in a web app. It mars their login brand a bit by showing that it isn't useful everywhere.



> I like the angle of "Sorry, Apple ID only works on Apple devices."

Except it's inaccurate, it works on Android, Windows and in browsers https://support.apple.com/kb/HT211687

Agreed on all other points though, if you want to garner sympathy from your users, that's definitely not how to do it.


> Except it's inaccurate, it works on Android, Windows and in browsers

I'm pretty sure there is an implied "on this app" in there. But I agree that the formulation could be seen as ambiguous.


Yep but that should be made clear and not just implied, because at the end of the day, their users who signup with Apple will be unable to use their web app because of the developer choice not to implement it (which is definitely their right not to do so, they can handle the support), and not Apple not giving them the APIs.


Yeah, this is the part that makes the developer not just petty, but actually quite disingenuous and actively hostile to their own users.

It's one thing to argue against the policy and there's nothing wrong with that. But it's unacceptable and close to outright lying to imply that the policy decision makes the user's account only usable with Apple devices.

The really puzzling thing about all of this is that the developer's primary issue - he believes Apple is being hostile to developers - is exactly what he's doing to his end users.

Apple took away his choice, so he's taking away his users' choice to use the feature as they desire.


> Apple took away his choice, so he's taking away his users' choice to use the feature as they desire.

And it doesn't hurt Apple in the slightest, couldn't agree more.


Okay.

"Sorry, we're only able to support Apple ID on Apple devices at this time."


And I actually think the message is more biting with only the first sentence. It works better when you don't take it too far.


Thanks, the web app isn't published yet and I will take this into consideration


For a more professional notice, I'd try something more like "Apple required us to choose between either supporting Sign-in with Apple in the iOS app, or disabling the logins of all existing users who had signed in with Google and Facebook. In protest of these abusive requirements, sign-in with Apple will not be supported online."


From the perspective of his users on Apple devices, it isn't abusive at all. It's pro-user and pro-privacy.


Judging by the language used in the post (e.g. "prisoner" or "Give them your money, your will, your worship") it seems like a reasonable assumption that this developer doesn't care about Apple customers.


That's not true, I care about them at a personal level. I would probably have heated discussions about the benevolence of Apple with (some) of them, but it would be in a similar spirit to that of a discussion about football

I keep regular correspondence with many of my iOS users and I consider them to be my friends. They've helped me shape Groups' current form in many ways. I am thankful


Thank you for fighting the good fight.

Apple is making it impossible to have real customers and real businesses. They're turning us into serfs of their unfair ecosystem.

It's one thing to build interconnected products, but to grow the pie so large that all commerce and communication with 50% of Americans goes through their polished gates, to be stripped, taxed, and even cloned, is an abuse of power and position. It's a strip mining of our industry. An over fishing that has greatly decreased the probability of success for small, independent players.

Until the DOJ forces them to open up (or break up), we're stuck in this war zone.

I'm going to follow in your footsteps. Hopefully many more do as well.


Thanks mate, I will gladly join you in being downvoted and add that in the long term it would really help if us developers got more organized. We need collective action. I have a few thoughts on this, anyone who wishes to join forces in carrying this baby can get in touch at javierantonf@hotmail.com


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Do not mistake the sentiment here for Apple boot licking. It is possible to be both critical of Apple's policies while also recognizing the value they provide to users.

What exactly is "the good fight" here, and how is forcing this fight onto an app's user base something that should be applauded?

I'm no Apple fanboy, but I do think they've managed to implement features that are genuinely helpful to users. Whether that's benevolent or self-serving is not necessarily as relevant as the net benefit to end-users.

Personally, I find it refreshing when a policy like this actually results in better privacy for the user and not worse. If the developer truly has such philosophical issues with Apple, they should remove all social login options as the transgressions of the other two are arguably and demonstrably worse for users than Apple Sign In.




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