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> Sure, some people might be annoyed they were spied on

I think it should be mentioned that other countries spy on citizens too. I fail to see what is the difference for Israel now. We have ample evidence from multiple whistleblowers that governments like to surveil their population.

Furthermore, Israel hasn't had the support it has today. Especially at the time multiple countries tried to attack it. At the time it basically got its weapons for defense on the black market. So scrutinizing questionable defense contracts is a weak accusation, especially since all other countries do sell weapons to regimes as well.

What you are really criticizing is the success. Making that clear might not really helpful, but is factual.



> I think it should be mentioned that other countries spy on citizens too. I fail to see what is the difference for Israel now. We have ample evidence from multiple whistleblowers that governments like to surveil their population.

And all of them should be called out, every time. "But those guys get away with it" isn't a defense.


That is a valid argument against unethical behavior but again, this isn't valid for the reality of arms sales. It would be better if that weren't the case, but it isn't. And the place to start is always your own government because here you are responsible and have the ability to enact change. Your government will try to move you to point fingers at other country. Exactly like you do here.

What the Russians do isn't an argument...


I can and do call out my own government. I can criticize other governments at the same time. I don't need to limit myself to caring about one issue.


> What you are really criticising

I wasn’t criticising them at all. I was merely pointing out where their interests and incentives lie.


Sorry, it wasn't meant as an objection. Didn't mean you with 'you'.




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