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How do you square "2. Payments; where other storefronts tend to custody funds and pay sellers out after 7-14 days, we enable sellers to receive earnings instantly." with chargebacks / refunds?



That's a great question!

What we currently do on SellApp, is block purchases coming from VPN's/proxies (via MaxMind) which'll help reduce the rate of fraudulent purchases.

However, that by itself is probably not going to be enough to keep a low chargeback rate for all our sellers, so we are also planning on creating a fraud detection system that factors in a number of aspects in order to keep malicious customers at bay.

For refunds, customers can open a ticket with a seller to request a refund. We also give sellers the ability to set a 'refund timer' and terms of a refund during the product creation process, so that in case something does go wrong, they have that to refer back to.

Lots of room for improvement on both aspects though!


> What we currently do on SellApp, is block purchases coming from VPN's/proxies

That's basically a non-starter for me as I need to give all potential users a good UX.


We give the customers a heads up to contact the seller when they get blocked, so it'll be as easy as telling them that they need to disable their VPN/proxy in order to make the purchase.

Although, it'd make more sense if we tell them that and save you the time to reply to a few customer support tickets. Will add it to our roadmap :)


> that they need to disable their VPN/proxy in order to make the purchase.

That's also a non-starter because that defeats the purpose of a VPN.


Agreed. There are proxies which defeat detectors. If i were a fraudster i'd use those. So all you're doing is losing real customers.


Can you name some?


There are so called "residential proxies" that use a IP from some normal consumer ISP connection, not some datacenter IP. However there are services that can detect such residentials too, e.g. https://focsec.com/


How do you detect VPN or proxies? Are you using 3rd party services such as IP2Location or Maxmind?


Hey, we do indeed use Maxmind for our VPN/proxy detection. So far the experience has been pretty good.




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