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Are you kidding me?????

My dad was diagnosed with a very rare type of stomach cancer called GIST at 42. The average survivability at that stage for GIST at that time was 6-12 months. Zero patients lived more than 5 years.

He was given experimental(at the time) drug called Glivec as it was being tested specifically against GIST and it was literally one of these "there's nothing else, so might as well".

He lived another 8 years after that, until cancer came back and the drugs stopped working.

When he was first diagnosed I was a teenager, my sister was a child - thanks to this drug he was able to see his kids go into adulthood, and obviously spend 8 more years with his wife.

How is that "ain't much"??????


> How is that "ain't much"?

Whether four or eight years, either is an enormous gift when facing a terminal illness. There is no question about it. It's even more so the case if a person is 40 years old than if they're 80. The 80 year old has already lived a full life, death is far more acceptable, tolerable, at that age for most people.

I suspect a person would have had to have never seen a loved one confront a terminal illness, to believe a year of additional time isn't a lot given the context.

My mother died relatively young from small cell lung cancer. At the time there were no specific therapies for it, it was often caught late, and typically a person would die within 6-12 months. Almost nobody would make it more than three years. She lived for around 20 months post diagnosis, and that was a lot of very valuable time, even if it wasn't enough time.

I've observed across my lifetime that some people live more in a year than other people manage to in a decade.

How quickly time passes objectively and how we experience time are obviously two different things. Perhaps the skeptical parent was failing to grasp the significance of the difference. When facing a terminal illness, how you experience time is drastically altered, even if the seconds tick by as they did before.


I appreciate you taking the time to tell your story. It’s easy to view expensive treatments that only extend someone’s life by a year or two as too costly but those remaining years can be the most important for that person and their friends/family.


To be honest, eight years is not what I'd imagine as "a few". That's actually quite a lot.


Yes, of course, but the point is that it wasn't known at the time when he was prescribed treatment. A "good" case for him would have been living another year, maybe two if lucky. The drug was experimental after all, and that it actually worked and gave him another 8 years of life was a huge medical achievement.


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> Speaking of the number 4, awesome my comment already at -4, which is the cap.

I cannot believe how flippantly you're responding to someone who told the story of their dad passing away due to cancer, and yet you have the gall to also whine about downvotes.


Yes, but cancer is not a solved problem, and so people will get it and eventually die. Also, who cares if people live 40+ years? Those with cancer statistically don't, yet drugs can increase life expectancy. That's the point.

An extra day with your loved ones is paradise. Taking a drug and potentially gaining years?

Come on mate, it's not a surprise you're being downvoted as your attitude is a disgrace.


I doubt Sesame Street is going to hire you with that attitude.


You can't fold every individual into some sort of "average" case when the individualism isn't favorable. The universe doesn't work that way.


if you measure in terms of percentage, sure. But not everything is statistical... considering that this 40 year old has not planned to be not-around so soon, these few extra years might allow this 40 year old to sort out and settle certain affairs that would allow them and their family to part with more "acceptance".




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