This is an infuriating bug that impacts my 16" MBP. Everytime I plug into a thunderbolt dock I have a 50-50 chance of a hard reboot due to Kernel panic. There have been threads about this issue for a couple of years now and nothing has improved.
I originally came to the MBP from the world of windows and being very jaded by BIOS and sleep issues with my Dell XPS 15. Macs just work they said. Well, jokes been on me. I literally have to constantly mute myself during video calls because my $3500 MBP fans are always whirring away so loudly that it ends up fucking up the audio for others during a call. I've had my entire system throttle and grind to a halt during video calls because of thermal throttling when temperatures got higher during this summer.
I'm so over Apple and their laptops. My wife's MBP has a swollen battery that's destroyed the touchbar and touchpad. For all my complaints with Dell, it was nothing in comparison to the pain of owning my MBP. Multimonitor support is a joke. Docks are a joke. Opening apps is a fucking joke due to their sandbox slowing things down to the point that opening any app takes 5-10 seconds.
At this point all I do is use my $3500 MBP as a VNC client to my Linux desktop where I get all my real work done. This is the first and last Mac I will personally own. I can see why they were as popular as they were with the developer crowd. But Apple has lost its way and doesn't give a shit, at least not when it comes to the developer / professional users that they originally targeted with their MBP line.
I'll be going back to Windows/Linux soon and there is very little I will miss when I make the switch.
> I originally came to the MBP from the world of windows and being very jaded by BIOS and sleep issues with my Dell XPS 15. Macs just work they said. Well, jokes been on me.
This is pretty much by sentiment too. My MBP is a "2nd" computer for me, that I only use when building iOS apps - my daily driver is Windows 10, and I'm very happy with it.
It's not quite 50-50 for kernel panic for me, but I'd guess it happens around 20% of the time if the MBP is switched on when I plug in the monitors - hardly much better. The keyboard on my MBP is crap too, and has 2 keys that stop working from time to time. I'm not even a fan of the trackpad that most on HN seem to gush about - it needs too much pressure to click even on the most sensitive setting, and something just feels "weird" about the feel of it and the way teh cursor moves. And it seems something breaks or goes wrong after every.single.os.update - IMO, there are some serious QA issues with OS updates.
Meanwhile on Windows 10, everything Just Works (TM).
Random thought, when I used the official Apple HDMI adapter, I had no issues. When I used a third party USB-C-DP cable, I had random crashes, especially when turning on or waking from sleep.
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, Apple refuses to make laptop docks for their own "Pro" line of laptops, which means you have to resort to 3rd party docks. And I'm not using cheap docks here. I've tried several $200-$350 Thunderbolt docks and I've had this issue on every single one of them. Meanwhile my significantly older Dell laptop has no issues on any of them. It's hard to give Apple an out on this when they won't even make an overpriced dock that I would still purchase just to retain my sanity and have the ability to easily work on a 3 monitor setup without random reboots.
I originally came to the MBP from the world of windows and being very jaded by BIOS and sleep issues with my Dell XPS 15. Macs just work they said. Well, jokes been on me. I literally have to constantly mute myself during video calls because my $3500 MBP fans are always whirring away so loudly that it ends up fucking up the audio for others during a call. I've had my entire system throttle and grind to a halt during video calls because of thermal throttling when temperatures got higher during this summer.
I'm so over Apple and their laptops. My wife's MBP has a swollen battery that's destroyed the touchbar and touchpad. For all my complaints with Dell, it was nothing in comparison to the pain of owning my MBP. Multimonitor support is a joke. Docks are a joke. Opening apps is a fucking joke due to their sandbox slowing things down to the point that opening any app takes 5-10 seconds.
At this point all I do is use my $3500 MBP as a VNC client to my Linux desktop where I get all my real work done. This is the first and last Mac I will personally own. I can see why they were as popular as they were with the developer crowd. But Apple has lost its way and doesn't give a shit, at least not when it comes to the developer / professional users that they originally targeted with their MBP line.
I'll be going back to Windows/Linux soon and there is very little I will miss when I make the switch.