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> You look at jurisdictions that are "soft" on crime - Scandinavia, New Zealand etc. and invariably all of them have figured out non-punitive methods of crime reduction that are far more effective than jail.

You're assuming what works for X works for Y as well, without accounting for an insanely large difference between the culture in the United States and those countries. People are very different here, the education level, the moralities of the society, the concept of "I, me and myself first", the economic conditions, the violence, the mental health issues and many more things.

There is a reason why despite having liberal gun laws in Switzerland, there are way less mass shootings than the United States. But what works there won't work here.



Switzerland doesn't really have liberal gun laws. Ex-conscripts can keep their service weapon at home, but it's tightly regulated (ammos are sealed and aren't to be open except in case of need). You can't buy a gun in a supermarket the way you can in a Walmart in the US, or open/conceal carry a gun.

Gun ownership is high due to more or less half the population serving in the army, and the laws are probably more liberal than in neighbouring European countries, but you can't compare it in any way to the US.




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