Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

I think it's somewhere in between. Taxes, healthcare, and retirement are big in the US. And keep in mind that self-employment taxes (operative here) are more than the taxes taken out as an employee.

But $11K/month * 12 == $132K. To roughy back-of-napkin equalize for higher self-employment taxes, let's say that's equivalent to $100K salary if you were an ordinary employee. (I just made that up, I don't know how accurate it is).

$100K is still 84th percentile income for US, you are making more than 84% of people in the US. It's not "peanuts" or "subsistence".

($132K is 91st percentile income).




Back of the napkin to me: say $25.5k pre-tax retirement / college savings for child, 30% federal, 15% state, $3200/mn to rent an apartment in a mid sized city in the US, $400 month for car and gas, $1k for food, $1k for healthcare, $160 for utilities, leaves them with $288/mn. Not enough to ever own a home, build wealth, travel; better hope they have a spouse that is employed & has employer subsidized healthcare.


And yet, regardless, it's still more than 85% of incomes in the USA. That seems striking.

Is 85% of the USA living on subsistence peanuts, not even enough to survive? Possibly.


Not saving for retirement and one surprise bill from insolvency is the status quo. AMERICA!!!!




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: