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Why will it? The price of cod was rising previously, which is why the chippies started switching to haddock as the cheaper fish.

Also, why is this Schadenfreude? Should people only vote out of short-term self interest, and to be sneered at if they don't?




Seeing the Tories confidently declare they will negotiate a series of treaties that will be in the UK's favour, only to be shoved around by anyone and everyone and generally being made to look like incompetent oafs is a pretty textbook example of schadenfreude no?


Pedantry: what you describe is just "comeuppance". To be schadenfreude, you have to be taking joy in it.

You can have schadenfreude without comeuppance, though that can verge into just plain sadism or gloating. Schadenfreude usually has a connotation that the misfortune is deserved.

So yes, Remain voters (and those who sympathize with them) may definitely be experiencing some schadenfreude watching the Tories hoist by their own petard.


Yeah it wasn’t explicitly stated but I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume the person who used the term in this thread is enjoying it slightly, given the statement that followed it


> only to be shoved around by anyone and everyone

Don't worry... Australia came to its rescue last week, ready for us to be shoved around by the mother country in "uncomfortable chairs".


The tories? sure. I don't consider them natural brexiters though; their current leader is just a populist.


They were the party most loudly in support of Brexit, voting for it in the largest numbers, and they were also the ones who made it happen. If that doesn't make them "natural Brexiters" then the phrase "natural Brexiters" is meaningless. They are the Brexiters, more than anyone else.


> They were the party most loudly in support of Brexit

Not the brexit party? Arguing which of the established parties was "most supportive" is like arguing who is the tallest hobbit.

> they were also the ones who made it happen

barely. It was the electorate that made it happen.

> They are the Brexiters, more than anyone else

That "anyone else" are the people that voted for it.


It's a bit more than the leader though, they seem pretty enthusiastic about it overall.


> Should people only vote out of short-term self interest, and to be sneered at if they don't?

All people who voted in their long-term interest voted remain. There is no realistic scenario where a Brexit is better long-term for anyone.

Whether the others deluded themselves into thinking that Brexit is better in the long-term or voted out of their own short-term self interest doesn't matter very much.


That's just your opinion. I'll "delude" myself into thinking sovereignty, and resistance to continental divide-and-conqueror is better long-term (see how trade deals are usually weaponised: [0]; then tell me the same "political power coerced by economic lock-in" isn't at play) is better than short term economic benefits.

The "everyone will be worse off out of the EU" argument sounds a lot like the flip-side of trickle-down economics; Some may be worse off, but more equal given the spoils of remain are certainly not equally distributed.

[0] https://stallman.org/business-supremacy-treaties.html




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