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> divide pretty neatly along partisan and class lines

In America. The rest of the civilised world decided on this a long time ago.

It's not so much a "partisan and class" divide, it's "right-wing Americans vs the rest of Western Civilisation"

Even right-wingers in the UK and Europe do not want to bring back capital punishment [0]

[0] Obviously there are some wingnuts who do, but there's not to my knowledge a serious right-wing political party that has a policy of bringing back capital punishment. Corporal punishment, maybe.




Please omit nationalistic flamebait and political swipes from your posts here. They just make things worse.

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We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26900759.


my apologies. I obviously failed to communicate my point clearly enough and unintentionally created flamebait. Thanks for being an excellent mod :)


49% of Brits would support the reintroduction of the death penalty. I suspect that the same is true across Europe and that you are living in a bubble. [0]

[0] https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/should-the-dea...


> 49% of Brits would support the reintroduction of the death penalty

... for murdering a child. You forgot that part didn’t you? If you pull up the poll if death penalty should be reintroduced for all murderers only 32% are in support [0].

Please don’t pick and choose sources to make an argument which wasn’t even captured by the source. Also please don’t extrapolate to other countries like that. Us Europeans left the death Penalty behind a long time ago. This is not a thing anymore.

[0]: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/should-the-dea...


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You've broken the site guidelines badly, even relative to the rest of this thread, with name-calling, flamebait and slurs. Would you please stop doing that? We ban accounts that post this way—it's destructive to everything this site is intended to be.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


What more do I need to do to have my account deleted? I sent you an email as per your request, but my account still exists.


7 days later... my account still exists. I guess I've quashed the "just email us and we'll delete you're account" lie.


Seems like I disagree with everything this site is intended to be.

Can you please delete my account? I'm sick of this site and its biased, self-righteous mods. I even sent you an email and everything, just like you asked!


> But please, go on continuing to believe Europeans are superior to the rest of the world. I remember that working out really well for you guys back in the 1930s.

That is unnecessarily snarky. The comment I was replying to was suggesting that basically the UK and the other Europeans would happily welcome back the death penality. Which is not true. I only said that "we" - the strawman used by gp - left it behind and made no statement about other countries.

You are the one getting all nationalistic.


Please don't do this, no matter how provocative another comment was. The proper response is to flag it and ignore it—then the provocation fizzles out, as it should. The site guidelines put it this way: "Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." That's our euphemistic recoding of "Please don't feed the trolls."

I realize this is not so easy when you belong to a group that's being put down, but we all need to build up our tolerance to that kind of thing, since the alternative is to have it dominate discussion and that would make everything worse.

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Understood, still learning.


As are we all :)


Right up to the point where you explain what that means in practice.

As ever with polls it depends how you frame the question.


In shocking news the majority of people polled believed they should be paid more and be taxed less.


> As ever with polls it depends how you frame the question.

Obligatory 'Yes, Prime Minister' clip: https://youtu.be/G0ZZJXw4MTA


And only recently this number dropped below 50%! Wow!


"for the murder of a child" - this isn't about the death penalty. This is a "won't someone please think about the children" dog whistle to the "murder all the pedos" brigade.

Again, no-one is seriously suggesting bringing it back. My bubble is secure.


There's some variation inside the US. Michigan abolished the death penalty for all crimes other than treason in 1847 (It was abolished for treason in 1967, with no one having been executed).


> In America. The rest of the civilised world decided on this a long time ago.

You ended up calling half the world's population "uncivilized".


true. good point. poor choice of words. my apologies.




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