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Eh, Rogan normalizes hate speech in ways that if you or I were to try to do would get us fired/unfriended.

I don't think that's "fine", but it's also not really topical to the submission so I'll leave it at that.

Edit: if folks want to start a discussion about this with me, let's create an email thread about it. My email is in my profile, I'll wait until three folks mention their interest before getting started, if that works. I really didn't mean to upset or try to dodge anything, I just don't think a protracted discussion about Joe Rogan will be very interesting to most people on HN.




Sounds more like you want to raise the subject but don't want anyone to challenge you on it so you'll "leave it at that."


I'm sorry, hit me up on my email in my profile if you want to discuss more! A "Is Joe Rogan a racist?" conversation is not interesting, and this place is about hosting interesting discussions.


> A "Is Joe Rogan a racist?" conversation is not interesting, and this place is about hosting interesting discussions.

Yeah... because it's a bullshit conversation that people know is false, and any attempt to try to argue otherwise would see you utterly destroyed with facts.

Rogan and Chappelle are great friends. Rogan was friends with Patrice O'Neal. He's friends with Colion Noir and has him on the show about every six - twelve months.

For a "racist", he's doing a pretty poor job.


I won't go so far as to call Rogan a racist, but it is undeniable that he platforms known racists and does little to challenge their hateful beliefs. In effect Rogan is re-platforming those rightfully cancelled from forums with even the smallest amount of decorum, allowing hateful rhetoric to spread unabated.

>Yeah... because it's a bullshit conversation that people know is false, and any attempt to try to argue otherwise would see you utterly destroyed with facts.

This is not something someone with a convincing argument says before:

>Rogan and Chappelle are great friends. Rogan was friends with Patrice O'Neal. He's friends with Colion Noir and has him on the show about every six - twelve months.

...using the same argument whites use to justify saying the N word. Racists/supremacists tend to have token black friends, typically of lesser status or means, as cover.


In the context of their relationship (comedy), Chappelle is certainly much higher status than Rogan.


That's tangential to my point and inaccurate. Rogan is worth double Chappelle while enjoying far more of the current limelight to boot. Rather, my point is that saying someone isn't racist because they're friends, at least in public, with black people is fallacious and racist itself.


Man, I'd love to discuss this with you, but I really don't think it makes for good HN content. Unlike most, I do enjoy getting "destroyed with facts". Please email me!


I think tree-style conversations were invented so that you _can_ go off topic.


Can you give me an example of something Joe Rogan has said that you think a tech employer would fire an employee for? (Seriously asking, I don't listen to Rogan.)


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I meant like, a quote. or an episode. Some raw data I can listen to, not just your conclusion.


IMO, what you ask for is too much effort for caususal discussion on HN. If you want that, you have to listen for yourself.


I'm not sure why people expect their rhetorical counter-party to do the heavy lifting to convince themselves of a moral argument. Why should they care?




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