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I recently gave Spotify a try for about 8 months but just switched back to Apple Music. My reason for switching back had nothing to do with podcasts, it was simply Spotify's terrible interface that makes it impossible to just browse all the music in your library. But I had also started to notice podcasts infiltrating UI that used to be only music playlists. A few times I even mistakenly clicked on a podcast thinking that it was a music playlist that sounded interesting.



I dont think Spotify cares about the 0.1% of users that bring their own MP3s. It's a shrinking market. The growth is all the people who never even heard of an EmPeaThree.

I think back when I ripped my 350+ CDs to FLAC. In retrospect, it wasn't worth it.


I didn’t even try to upload my own songs. I just want to add stuff to my library and then be able to browse everything in my library by artist and album. On the iPhone app, this is impossible, which is absolutely baffling.


The only way to get around this is to make playlists that are just different albums, which is what I do. Not a great system, and I think it has actually changed the way I listen to music for the worse


Why hold on to the concept of a library? I just pick a genre that fits my mood and let ${MUSIC_SERVICE} generate a playlist. If I don't like a song I just skip it.

I don't see any advantages of spending time and effort curating a library, which harks back to the days of physical media.


There's a couple of things I object to there, because personally I really enjoy exploring new music and the back catalogue of bands.

Some artists really put effort into developing their albums or EPs as a coherent expression. If we all were to change to experiencing music like you describe it would inevitably result in a sea change in how the art is created in the first place. Artists will look to optimize for that particular method of consumption, in much the same way we have a large focus on individual track releases now in the streaming dominated world. I feel this limits the expression of the artists in general

I think that this would lead to further stagnancy or homogeneity in the most popular genres, as the playlist generation will look to optimize for the most listeners. This would come at the expense of artists who are not already in the public's sphere of consciousness, and would deeply hurt genres which have infinitely deep pools of sub-genres and micro-scenes; the world of Heavy Metal comes to mind specifically here. I think this damages the overall health of popular music in totality.

More interestingly because music in general is an incredibly subjective experience, opinionated tastemakers can be crucial for exposing underground or breaking through artists to a larger audience. Historically people like John Peel, and more recently Anthony Fantano (TheNeedleDrop) bring new music from underground artists in a wide range of genres to people's attention. It can feel like a minor triumph when you discover a new album that just speaks to you in a style of music you have no grounding in, especially when it's recommended to you by someone you know or trust.

While you may listen to more music in the way you describe, I don't think it would invoke nearly the same level of connection that I feel now, personally I find that to be a bit bleak, and self-defeating in the long term.


Sometimes the discrete unit I am looking to listen to is the album, not just a song.


I wouldn't bring in an entire library, but one big thing I find Apple Music has over Spotify is how well your traditional library and the Apple Music library converge.

I make use of it a lot for albums and songs not available on Apple Music. AFAIK, Spotify doesn't really have an answer to this.


Nah, should have kept a What.CD acct or its successors.


Well, redacted isn't impossible to get into.


Yeah but on the flip side -- nothing beats Spotify recommendations. I've found so much new music - if you're a new artist no other platform would provide more value than Spotify for discovery. Now, if we're talking pay-the-rent value..


Youtube music has been great for music recommendations lately. I rarely use Spotify anymore even though I pay for it


Will YouTube music play on Android while you do other things? YouTube video player on Android halts audio as soon as you switch contexts but Spotify plays in the background.


I think you only get youtube music with youtube premium at which point both apps work in the background


I pay for both, and I honestly can't get over how Apple Music feels more sluggish on my Apple computer than Spotify does. It's like night and day.


When we subscribed to Spotify (I don’t use it unsubscribed, as I have difficulty with interruptions from adverts) I found the UI infuriating (an opportunity to notice what I’m feeling and then decide whether to rage or not, but that’s another topic). Trying to tap (on iPad) the options for a song other than the one playing carried the chance that this song might start playing, as the hitbox is too small. Same with Tidal. Neither have an option to increase the size of useful buttons. I don’t consider myself to be differently abled physically, but I do try to promote broader accessibility, understanding there’s a cost in time and effort.


It's even worse if you want to hear your mp3 collection. Terrible interface.


Yep I can't stand spotify's UI either, so cumbersome.




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