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> Is existing currency not issued digitally?

It is, but it's restricted. M0 is central bank money [1]. Currently, only financial institutions have it. If the public could open accounts at the BoE, they too could own M0.

CBDCs are a way to give the public M0 without putting the central bank into the retail banking business. That gives central banks powerful new levers. For example, cash limits how negative rates can go. If cash were to become scarce and most money were held as M0, the central bank could enforce negative interest rates by clawing back M0.

Negative rates are feasible today. But were they to go sharply negative, they'd hit bank capital. Having the public directly hold M0 removes that side effect.

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/moneysupply.asp



> For example, cash limits how negative rates can go.

No, it doesn’t. Cash with depreciation or expiration (both preannounced and ad hoc) has been used before. Politics, not technology, limits the use of that tool, and CBDC doesn’t meaningfully change the politics.


> Cash with depreciation or expiration (both preannounced and ad hoc) has been used before

Yes, if you changed the cash we're talking about, pounds sterling, it would be different.

> CBDC doesn’t meaningfully change the politics

Remember a few years ago, when IT would talk about getting long-needed projects greenly because they slapped "blockchain" on the proposal?Expiring cash is toxic. CBDC is not. Branding matters.


Monetarist concepts have little place in a modern way world.

Bank deposits are insured up to £85k, which means they are as solid and as good as cash.

It’s well known that negative rates only bind on commercial bank deposits - if at all.

Negative rates are just a tax on banks - which they recover by charging more for loans, and paying less for deposits like any other costs.


I'm still not sure I understand. How would a citizen be issued CBDC if not through an account?

Also, wouldn't this widespread use require in-kind withdrawal of cash from circulation to have any real effect?


Why is cash withdrawals from circulation be important to CBDC?

Btw I don't think OP argued citizens wouldn't need an account.


> Why is cash withdrawals from circulation be important to CBDC?

>> For example, cash limits how negative rates can go. If cash were to become scarce and most money were held as M0, the central bank could enforce negative interest rates by clawing back M0.

This would only really be effective if CBDC became prevalent enough to actually make a dent in money supply. What proportion of money would have to be CBDC for this to actually have an impact, and would we get there by just pure issuance of CBDC or by taking cash out of circulation and replacing it with CBDC?

> Btw I don't think OP argued citizens wouldn't need an account.

>> CBDCs are a way to give the public M0 without putting the central bank into the retail banking business.

I don't know how you would avoid retail banking unless you were to issue it via a means other than an account.


>I don't know how you would avoid retail banking unless you were to issue it via a means other than an account.

There's a lot more that goes into retail banking than just having an account. Of course citizens would need an account, how else will they be tracked :) I think the OP meant that the central bank could give customers an account for the sole purpose of holding their digital "crypto" coins and sending/receiving money with it....without having to do provide all the other services that go with retail banking like loans, credit cards etc.




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