Totally, it just moves the problem but potentially moves it to a larger search space. If you find a piece of marble isolated on top of a cliff it’s not cheating to deduce that it came from a larger group of similar rocks. You would calculate the probability that it was formed there, vs the probability it was formed somewhere else and moved there.
Life forms spontaneously. Just because this life evolves into higher beings who can also create above life in lab, the fundamental fact that life formed spontaneously is not affected in any way.
It moves the question as to why is the fine constant exactly what it is to support life. If it was off by a billionth of a percent, hydrogen wouldn’t form, etc.
You are a cloud of atoms wondering about why the atoms exist.
The fine-structure constant is only just known to that degree of precision. How far different it would have to be to interfere with known chemistry is much larger, maybe even a half-percent: that is, a half-billion times more than suggested.
We don't know what else could form, instead, with a different value; maybe even a better basis for life than what we got.
> why is the fine constant exactly what it is to support life
Doesn't the constant depend on the type of life. I don't think we know enough to conclude that life everywhere in the Universe is similar, i.e. has a similar/same constant, as the life on Earth.
It was a logical argument at a higher plane, at the scale of Universe. I do believe that all Life on Earth had a common/similar origin. Similar = there could have been multiple origins at different places on the planet Earth - I don't know if that has been proven wrong.
Perhaps I should have stated it as if life forms spontaneously....
The point is how far up do you want to go? Say for example:
Z was created by Y was created by X was created by W .... was created by A ... limit -> infinity
(where Z, Y, X ... are life on distinct planets)
At some point it will stop. So, how did the top most life form? It must have formed spontaneously.
If someone wants to call the topmost life God or Gods, who created them?
As articulated by most extant religions, that which is God is eternal.
Consequently, questions such as “oh yeah? Well then where did God come from?” are not persuasive. ‘God’ and ‘everything else’ are two entirely different categories.
