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SO OP gets to claim based on his anecdotal experience that unions are awful and full of lazy people.

But pointing out there are wildly successful unions filled with hardworking people is "cherry picking"?



I didn't say unions are not successful, I said that workplaces like VW or Porsche are not the norm in Germany. They're like Germany's FAANG; very successful, but not the norm for every industry employee there since they don't all enjoy such good conditions.


I have yet to hear people in Europe being upset that they are unionized.


I had a friend from France getting his undergraduate degree in the US Marvel at how much learning we were getting done, since we didnt spend half of every semester on strike.

There are good and bad unions everywhere, but I think the closed-shop restrictions in the US that force you to join a particular union as a condition of employment exacerbates the worst qualities of them here.


Again, I didn't say unions are bad, I said they're not the norm for every employee in europe


Um, some unemployed rioters and burning cars in France every single weekend would beg to differ with you.




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