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> I don't think most people really care about sunrise. Humans don't seem to naturally rise with the sun.

I do regular trips in the back of beyond. The first day everyone is up until 10-11 O'Clock in front of the camp fire hanging around with a beer. By the third day, everyone is up at dawn and asleep at 8 O'Clock.

Humans absolutely rise with the sun naturally. We've just isolated ourselves from the natural environment and forced ourselves onto arbitrary schedules most of us have a completely screwed sense of time.

If you flex your day based on sunrise, you get more useful sunlight hours... which means more time for being outside enjoying the day instead of stuck indoors. It's also a lot easier to get moving based on natural light, our bodies are programmed for it much like they are programmed for a 24 hour day.

The big issue with daylight savings time is the loss of sleep due to it all happening at once. You don't have that issue if you just have an alarm that wakes you at sunrise.




"Humans absolutely rise with the sun naturally."

That might be the case somewhere that doesn't have wide variations in day/night lengths throughout the year - but I definitely do not rise naturally at 4am in summer and 9am in winter. I've spent plenty of time outdoors as well.


Man are evolving from fertile cresent where make more hours in day light the same for summer and winter.


I wish society would let me rise with the sun in winter... fat chance. Employers want their 8 hours, no matter what happens outside.


Where do you live? I would be awake for only 8 hours a day if I followed this in the middle of winter.


You are missing the point.

It is difficult to sleep with natural light. That doesn't mean we collapse to the ground when it gets dark.

As I said, we rise with the sun, and stay awake so long as it makes sense.


The sun doesn’t rise until almost 8:30 near the end of the year so there’s no natural light to interrupt my sleep.




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