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I disagree here. I don’t see him putting people in there as one dimensional characters.

And I don’t think things can only be described by people on their own terms. If it were the case then only descendants of imperialists (Japanese in Asia, Britons in India and America, etc) could talk about the aftermath. And only Africans can talk about things Africans and only Mexicans about Mexico, etc. That’s untenable.




> I disagree here. I don’t see him putting people in there as one dimensional characters.

I respect your difference in opinion. I'm interested in how asian / black people feel about these Dr. Seuss books.

> And only Africans can talk about things Africans and only Mexicans about Mexico, etc. That’s untenable

I really don't think anybody is suggesting that


> I respect your difference in opinion. I'm interested in how asian / black people feel about these Dr. Seuss books.

Which Asian and Black people? Inevitably, it seems like it’s some professor of ethnic studies that are consulted about these questions. (That’s actually exactly what happened here to decide on what Dr. Seuss books were racist.) But think about that for a moment. Do you think the opinions of a random white Columbia University social sciences professor are a fair gauge of “how white people feel” about some issue? Obviously not. Then why would you assume the same is true as to people of color?

As a person of color I am vigorously opposed to this trend of putting professors and activists in charge of speaking for people of color. It’s totally distorting the conversation we are having with the rest of America, and also amongst ourselves. My mom and aunts, immigrants from Muslim countries, fret over their kids being exposed to western moral values (divorce, premarital sex, disrespect for elders, aggressive individualism, etc.) I have never heard them complain about some depiction in some book or movie. Meanwhile, professors and activists are making a huge deal about pictures and depictions in our name. But they are simultaneously working with white social progressives to undermine things that typical people in these communities care a lot more about. It’s perverse.


> I don’t see him putting people in there as one dimensional characters.

How are you just ignoring his WWII career as a propaganda artist? I linked you one of the tamer examples, but he was creating cartoons depicting both Japanese and Germans as the evil enemy.


Both the Germans and Japanese were categorically bad enemies we had the absolute right and duty to fight at all costs.


Ignoring whether that's true, this doesn't make the propaganda not racist.


we are talking about the book that just got banned for no reason not his other obviously racist work.


Right, obviously we should ignore his clearly racist work when judging whether his other work employs harmful racist stereotypes.




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