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That's the point, you cannot. Most high impact journals are with Elsevier or Springer. As a researcher you need papers in high impact factor journals. As a researcher you also don't want to spend precious grant money on open access. As a researcher you also want to be on review committee of said journals because it enhances your resume. What a lot of folks saying let's not use these journals don't understand is its not easy to get away from them. There's too much invested in a feedback loop that you will have very limited success with just individual researchers. You need to advocate for legislation.

fwiw - I'm also not sure why IEEE and ACM get a free pass either.




I don't know why people are so surprised that scientific publishing costs money — good journals and conferences are more than a webpage to post content.


I think the debate is that the charges are not fair. Reviewers often donate their time to journal reviews. The research may often be paid for by government grants.

researchgate.net & arxiv provide a away around this. Arxiv is well known, not sure how researchgate is doing. Scientists could setup their profiles and papers in arxiv or researchgate and then they can be accessed over google scholar.


I can't imagine that these licensing fees amount to a very high proportion of the cost of running a university—the value provided is very high.

Arxiv, research gate, scihub— they all seem to work well together with the commercial publishing system.

I think the world without a lot of money going into scientific publishing would be worse off.


No question the actual publication costs should be covered.

Which they are when a paper is published Open Access. They are covered once, which is ok, because the publication costs also occur once for the most part. There is no reason for a publisher to be allowed to perpetually charge ~40$ for a pdf download.

One other often mentioned criticism is that universities are forced to subscribe to bundles of journals with a mixture of desired journals fudged with journals no one would want to read. Nominally the subscription fee covers a large swath of journals and papers, but essentially the actual value is much more narrow.

To be honest there is no need for journals anyway in our completely digitized world. If all the papers were published Open Access (paid for once) the users could simply filter for the keywords relevant to them. Why would I subscribe to a Journal? This is technology from the last century.

Edit: typo


I am conservative about these things because of my experience seeing how disrupting the news industry




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