Chaos is only a problem when the right causes it. The chaos under discussion was born of justifiable anger and should be supported by morally conscious citizens. /s
While you're being downvoted, you're also not wrong. I have seen lots of people across reddit in large subreddits who are highly upvoted saying exactly this and not in a sarcastic manner. You also see it throughout Twitter.
There are many people who actively think it is okay for these protests to be violent and destructive because of what they are fighting for. But then these same people will ostracized people on the right who have wild protests.
It's like either violence and destruction is wrong when you're fighting for what you believe in, or it is right. People do often feels like breaking the law is okay when it is for their movement, but when it is for a movement they don't personally agree with it suddenly is not okay.
But this is exactly why protests, especially larger scale ones need to be monitored.
We have seen protests in many areas in America where destructive mobs start to descend on neighbourhoods at night to "protest". They will use things that make nose such as horns and cowbells and go through these neighbourhoods at night and cause a lot of conflict with the people in the neighborhoods.
I can completely understand why police are getting this footage, because oftentimes a lot of petty crimes gets reported along the path a "protest" took place.
You can find plenty of examples of these protests through neighbourhoods where someone has a Trump sign or American flag. Often those properties got some kind of vandalism or at the very least a mob chanting outside their house.
While it may seem controversial what the police are doing, it seems completely reasonable to request camera footage from people as some of the people in the protest committed crimes at some point during the day and that footage could be used to help identify them.
Protesting is one thing, but someone committing a crime should still face the consequences regardless of what they are fighting for.
Unfortunately if the police were requesting footage from protests that happened from Trump supporters I doubt we would see any news articles about it.
Would you please stop posting ideological flamewar comments to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly lately. It's not what this site is for, regardless of which ideology you're battling for or against.
I mean that's a bit of a silly comparison is it not? You're comparing a capital being stormed to a protest through a neighbourhood that I am referring to.
That protest wasn't a protest? Let me know where the goalposts end up.
What about the murderous right-wing protest in Charlottesville? Police and FBI also requested video, and it was widely reported. Does that count?
Other examples include the anti-abortion protests, protests defending Confederate statues, and White supremacy protests if you're really that out of the loop.
Left-wing protestors are 10X as likely to be arrested than the right. That inequality upsets you too, right?
Again you're using a strawman. Please stop replying to me. You are now comparing a riot where people got killed to a protest. Again, this is not what I am talking about nor is it what the OP's article is talking about. They are talking about a regular protest, not one where someone got killed or the capital was taken over.
Also you decided to focus on a single line of my post and your argument is a strawman. If you're going to engage in a discussion at least be genuine about it rather than letting your political bias derail a good conversation we could have had.
> Left-wing protestors are 10X as likely to be arrested than the right. That inequality upsets you too, right?
And don't use stupid stats like this. This does not upset me because you are inferring causation from statistical data that supports your bias. I could draw a different conclusion and say that the left are 10x as violent and thus arrested 10x as much. However I am not going to infer the cause of such stats as I don't know that is the reason, nor do you.
You should try and be a bit more open minded and not let your bias affect your ability to look at statistics online. Just because a stat says something, doesn't mean it immediately supports your cause. It may just mean further research is needed to determine what is the actual cause.
PROTESTing the removal of the statue of General Lee was the stated goal of the murderous Unite the Right protest.
PROTESTing the outcome of the 2020–21 U.S. election was the stated goal of the murderous Capitol protest.
The self-proclaimed protests that prove you wrong are suddenly not protests anymore? Once you learn what a strawman is, google "moving the goalposts."
I provided two examples where murderous right-wing protests were monitored and recorded by police, completely contradicting the idea that "I doubt we would see any news articles about it."
You've provided zero examples to support that blind speculation.
don't use stupid stats like this
The stats that you didn't read already made this argument for you:
Explanations that rest solely on the conservative politics and culture of the police...neglect the ways political systems, identities and organizations shape interactions between police and protesters
...but--my confirmation bias! How embarrassing, I can understand why you had to dodge the question.
