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> > Russia is still more democratic than many of the US’s allies

> Russia is an authoritarian dictatorship with the same guy ruling for 21 years and counting. Which allies did you meant?

Well, compare Russia to America's ally Saudi Arabia.

In Russia, they have national elections. You can complain they are rigged, and there is some truth in that – but, anyway, at least they have them. Saudi Arabia has never had an election in its history, except for local government.

I don't think the rigging in Russia is primarily through direct election fraud (although some of that may be happening). Putin is genuinely popular with a majority of Russians, so he can win a genuine majority of votes, but he engages in manipulation of public opinion through state-controlled media to help build his popularity. Also, the system ensures that the only people allowed to run against Putin are the communists and ultra-nationalists who are unlikely to win; pro-Western/liberal candidates are prevented from running, although it is not guaranteed they'd win if they were allowed, but they possibly could give Putin some more real competition. However, if Putin's popularity were to collapse, he'd be forced to resort to more blatantly fraudulent means to stay in power, and it is possible at that point his allies who keep him in power might turn against him and he might be removed.

In Russia, they have political parties. The system is dominated by the ruling "United Russia" party, although other parties (such as the Communist Party and the ultra-nationalist LDPR) are permitted to hold around a quarter of the seats in the Duma. Again, you can complain the Duma is rigged in United Russia's favour, and that complaint may well be true, but still doing better than Saudi Arabia, where political parties are banned.

It isn't just Saudi Arabia. Other American allies in the Middle East, such as UAE, Qatar and Oman also ban political parties.




> In Russia, they have national elections.

In Soviet Union they had them as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_Soviet_Union Will you argue USSR was a democracy?

> Putin is genuinely popular with a majority of Russians

We don’t quite know that.

> he'd be forced to resort to more blatantly fraudulent means to stay in power

That already happened in 2011 and in all the later ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Russian_legislative_elect...

That helped him to stay in power, but only to an extent.

Unfortunately, he decided to resort to even more sinister means to stay in power, military offence against a neighbor country. Apparently, land grab of Crimea boosted his popularity by a lot back in 2014. Only recently the effect has started to fade away, likely a result of macro-economic consequences of international sanctions.

> Other American allies in the Middle East, such as UAE, Qatar and Oman also ban political parties.

Still, that’s 4 countries out of about half of the world. That’s not many of them.


> Will you argue USSR was a democracy?

Contemporary Russia has far more of the form of an electoral democracy than the USSR had. 25% of the Duma is controlled by opposition parties. How much of the Supreme Soviet was controlled by opposition parties?

If we distinguish form from substance, contemporary Russia has a lot of the form, but the substance is impaired. By contrast, the Soviet Union was lacking in both.

> We don’t quite know that.

The Nov 2020 Levada poll gave him a 65% approval rating – https://www.levada.ru/en/ratings/ – that seems to support what I said

> That already happened in 2011 and in all the later ones

Looking at that article about the 2011 election, United Russia was polling in the 50s to 60s, and won about 49% of the vote, suggesting they underperformed their polls. There may well have been some fraud, but unless the opinion polls are rigged too (which might be true, but where is the evidence?), it doesn't look like any fraud actually changed the outcome.

> Apparently, land grab of Crimea boosted his popularity by a lot back in 2014

Which seems to support what I said earlier, about him being "genuinely popular with a majority of Russians"


> 25% of the Duma is controlled by opposition parties.

An example, in 2014 100% of state senators (they have two houses in their parliament, duma is another one) approved Putin’s request to invade Ukraine. I think that level of conformity would be impossible with opposition parties there.

> 2020 Levada poll gave him a 65% approval rating

In modern Russia, saying you don’t support Putin or his party is risky. It’s not yet as bad as in USSR (the risk was almost 100% then, people were executed, imprisoned, or later forcibly treated in psychiatric hospitals), but it’s slowly getting there.

We don’t know how these same people would have responded if they would be free to express any opinion on the subject.

> it doesn't look like any fraud actually changed the outcome

In the first paragraph of that article there’s a statement “Statistical analysis of poll data have shown massive abnormalities that most researchers explain by mass-scale electoral fraud”, which has 6 external links.




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