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How Ads Really Work: Superfans and Noobs -- Great post by creator of Metafilter (fortuito.us)
28 points by especkman on May 31, 2007 | hide | past | favorite | 5 comments



Very interesting article. I had the same idea, but instead of completely eliminate ads for fans, I would sell the bandwidth at a high price or even with auction.

This ad bandiwdth has a high value for advertisers because of the occasional ad display, a campaing would have a higher visibility (no ad blindness effect). The fan's interests are well identified so that the ad can be focused. It will also make more sense for the fans and eventually be useful to them.

One can always trade member fee with add display, but one should keep the auction effect so that advertisers that pay a high fee still get through. The user could also increase its fee to make the ad barrier higher. This yields a competition.

I designed this business model for a startup using crowd sourcing, where fans contributing to the site would get back their fair share of ad revenue. They could use part of this revenue to increase the ad barrier. The idea was to create a vertuous circle that motivate users and advertisers to increase contribution.

I gave up because funding was too short and I was alone without much time to invest on it. And also because I wasn't sure it would work. So I'm glad to see the base idea is already practiced.

People should understand that flooding the web with ads is diluting its value. So one need ways to increase focus in the benefit of users and advertisers.


Won't more and more users find plugins like Adblock over time? And if someone was to set up a trusted list of URLs to block and the plugin updated occasionally whole swaves of ads would disappear and not be loaded.

Has anyone any stats from their site that show how many people are blocking ads?


At this point, there are over 150M adults online in the US. I doubt a large % of them will end up installing adblock.

Keep in mind too, blocking ads isn't necessarily a rational decision for a lot of people in a lot of situations. We can put aside the fact that ads provide economic incentive for the content people are looking for.

The important thing is that ads are often gateways to the things people are looking for (with is one of the points of the article). People buy goods and services. Ads provide a way for people to find sellers of the goods and services they want.

The advertising driven business model is an extremely old one, and I don't think it's going anywhere. People have always had the capacity to ignore advertising, even without technology -- the human brain is very selective about the information it processes and retains.

Some advertising works subliminally/emotionally (most brand advertising), but highly targeted ads, particularly context sensitive pay per click ads aren't generally in that category. They work when people are looking for something, much like the ads from local car dealers in the local paper, which most people ignore completely unless they have an inclination or outright need for a new car.


A different, but possibly correlated metric that I am considering is to base ad invasiveness on how desperate to use your service each user is.


How would you measure desperation?




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