Hmm. You're dodging the question: Why would a cofounder want to start a company with you? No handwaving.
People cofound to get rich. Can your company offer that to your cofounder?
If you focus on that question, the rest falls into place. Unfortunately a lot of people don't want to focus on that question, because it's at the heart of why bootstrapping rarely works.
"Not needing adult supervision" indicates that you probably haven't done what you're saying. It's not a matter of supervision. It's managing expectations. You are legally required to lay out what you offer, in clear terms, and what you expect in return. That's the basis of a business arrangement.
So, we're going into business together. How will your company make me rich? Why should I work as hard as I possibly can to make the company succeed?
The model happens to be aligned with how and why people actually start companies. It's not my model.
You have to come up with a persuasive answer to "Why should I work as hard as I can on this company, rather than go work for Google?" That question is in fact so hard that it (possibly) almost killed YC in the crib, back in '08. No one wants to work for a startup when they can get paid far more and live an easier life.
What you're proposing, if I understand you correctly, is that someone works extremely hard, for no concrete gain other than perhaps intellectual curiosity. Sure, you can argue that the usual benefits apply: you're free to do as you please, and to self-manage. But that's not a very convincing argument in the face of $RIDICULOUS_SALARY at a bigco.
It's cliche to say "Don't hate the player, hate the game," but I believe it applies here. Neither of us chose to live in a capitalistic society. We were born into one. Why not make the optimal decisions, all else being equal?
> The model happens to be aligned with how and why people actually start companies. It's not my model.
That someone else created the model and you believe it doesn't mean it's true.
> You have to come up with a persuasive answer to "Why should I work as hard as I can on this company, rather than go work for Google?" That question is in fact so hard that it (possibly) almost killed YC in the crib, back in '08. No one wants to work for a startup when they can get paid far more and live an easier life.
Actually, I don't. Honestly, you seem kind of set in your thinking, and I don't think it's worth the effort to try to figure out how to persuade you out of your misconceptions. There are counterexamples even in this subthread that falsify your model. It's up to you to either be open to them or not.
Statistically you are right that big tech currently provides the best expected value for a programmer, but in practice people's decisions aren't based on a single criteria. A lot of people find working for Google soul crushing and would happily take a $100k job that gives them more control and impact versus trying to navigate the path to promotion and relevance in a sea of stillborn products at Google.
I also agree founders want to get rich, I mean who doesn't? It's a nice fantasy. However if they don't have a deeper motivation to solve a problem for its own sake they will fail. If you're super smart and just want to get rich, the right move is to go into finance because you'll never cross the chasm of building something people actually want. Even the language you use to describe the premise indicates you don't really get what makes successful founders tick. Founders don't "work for a startup" and they don't need to be convinced—the whole point is these are people who have decided for one reason or another that they are passionate about building a company. You might think them fools because 25yo engineers are making $500k at FAANG and that is a high bar to clear for any startup (it is), but consider that all SWEs under 35 have never known a recession, and they may have come to believe that a programmer is inherently worth $500k even though this is just market rate given todays demand. If there is another dot-com style correction, a bunch of folks might find out real quick what the value of knowing how to make your own dollar is.
People cofound to get rich. Can your company offer that to your cofounder?
If you focus on that question, the rest falls into place. Unfortunately a lot of people don't want to focus on that question, because it's at the heart of why bootstrapping rarely works.
"Not needing adult supervision" indicates that you probably haven't done what you're saying. It's not a matter of supervision. It's managing expectations. You are legally required to lay out what you offer, in clear terms, and what you expect in return. That's the basis of a business arrangement.
So, we're going into business together. How will your company make me rich? Why should I work as hard as I possibly can to make the company succeed?