It doesn't show people upstairs in that video. Even if they were, they were doing it to clear the corner and then lowering the weapon after identifying them as non-hostile (or no person at all since they aren't on video).

Why did they need to do that? Why would they have any reason to believe anyone in the house was a violent threat?

Come in with the damn guns holstered. It's some scientist's house, where her kids live. Not a fucking prepper compound.

Do you know if they have guns in the house or if they are violent? This is standard procedure if they were noncompliant. No harm was done, so I don't see why this is being discussed. If they had thought there was a chance of violence, they would have been much more forceful.

> No harm was done, so I don't see why this is being discussed

Come on now. If you can't look at events this year and understand why people are frustrated/scared about a situation like this, then that's willful ignorance.

Is it reasonable for LE to come into certain situations preemptively prepared for violence (gun draw in tight quarters)? I think yes. Is this one? Hell no

They're prepared to defend themselves because the individual was non-compliant for 20 minutes so they don't know if the people in the residence were setting up an ambush. I believe it's willful ignorance to ignore the facts of the case. Have you ever educated yourself on police training and tactics?

So coming in with guns drawn and covering their arcs as they move through the building is okay even if they thought there was no chance of violence? The fact that no one got shot this time makes it ok for this to be SOP?

You seem to have made a lot of posts on this thread about how law enforcement should behave and the tactics they employ. What experience with law enforcement or the military do you have? If you don't have direct experience, what are you basing these comments on?

> Which one said they thought there was no chance of violence?

You implied it. "If they had thought there was a chance of violence, they would have been much more forceful."

I feel like we're going to continue to disagree here but I do want to thank you for contributing your viewpoint to the discussion.

I should have worded it better as high chance of violence.

Same to you.

> This is standard procedure if they were noncompliant

Laws differ greatly across the US as to this. I am unfamiliar with the laws and procedures of this particular jurisdiction though.

> No harm was done

Though everyone is different, pointing guns at kids is very likely far from harmless, no matter the firearm operator. As we have seen very much in 2020, law enforcement makes mistakes all the time (to be generous).

I know of no laws that would prevent clearing a house they way they did.

If you have a mother acting illogically and emotionally, then I would say that is what would cause the harm. Kids will respond the way they think they are supposed to respond based on the response of others. If the mother remains calm and tells them everything was fine and normal, then there should be no harm.

> If the mother remains calm and tells them everything was fine and normal, then there should be no harm.

Kids vary a lot, but I've not seen a kid that ever behaved in such a way.

This is not my experience, no.