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That first metric is highly subjective. There is a growing movement of anti-natalists that believe that having children is immoral, because being born a human is worse than never having existed, and people can't consent to their existence.

I don't think we'll be able to move beyond subjectivity for the morality of this, but I do think we can be more precise.




Such people, when met in real life face to face, inevitably remind me of Aesop's fable concerning a fox who wanted grapes but couldn't reach them.


Interesting. We tend to feel the same way about those who disagree with that premise.


It hardly matters. The ethics hold, or they don't.


In the case, the fox did get to the grapes and verified that they are indeed sour.




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