I'm not quite sure how to say this in a non-confrontational way, but...
the thesis of the article you quote is literally identical to the thesis of my posts -- that Marx is in fact influential on modern economics. Again, I don't want to be confrontational, but... did you read the article you're quoting? The thesis is literally the opposite of what you claim it is.
> "Few economists doubt that Marx flunked economics"
The rest of that paragraph reads as follows:
But this column argues that Marx’s representation of the power relationship between capital and labour in the firm is an essential insight for understanding and improving modern capitalism. Indeed, this insight is incorporated into standard principal–agent models of labour and credit markets.
So the article you are quoting for support states that Marxist ideas are incorporated into standard models. Not directly, of course, but there. Kinda like how Newtonian ideas are in some sense incorporated into standard model...
Let's continue.
> "Economists, looking back, have not found much to admire in Karl Marx"
And then the entire next paragraph makes literally exactly the same argument I'm making here -- that Marx is obsolete and even what he was trying to do in terms of "generalized models" is obsolete -- but that he none-the-less does effect modern economics:
These assessments are based largely on our current – and correct in my view – understanding of Marx’s labour theory of value as a pioneering, but inconsistent and outdated, attempt at a general equilibrium model of pricing and distribution. But there is another aspect of his work that has been strongly vindicated by theoretical advances in recent decades: the idea that the exercise of power is an essential aspect of the working of the capitalist economy, even in its idealised, perfectly competitive, state.
TBH, it looks like the best source you can muster for your claims is making substantively exactly the same argument I'm making.... Marx's theories are flawed but clearly continue to effect work-a-day economics to this day.
> "Few economists doubt that Marx flunked economics"
So you do not refute this statement?
I using this source to reference the opinions of economists.
This is what economists believe.
The rest of the blog post makes no other references to what economists actually believe.
I am merely using the source to explain to you, what the general opinion of economists is. (even though the author disagrees with the opinion of economists)
The person in the blog post (Samuel Bowles) is literally a Marxian. So yes, I do know that a Marxian believes in Marxian economics.
But I am using this source, because even a Marxian is willing to admit that basically all economists think that Marx was bunk.
Even a supporter of Marxian economics is aware that his opinions are fringe, and that the rest of academia disagrees with him.
Which is why I am using him as a source. Because even though he gives arguments in favor of Marx being relevant, he is willing to admit that all of his fellows in academia, disagree with him.
> it looks like the best source you can muster for your claims is making substantively exactly the same argument I'm making
The source that I am showing, is by a Marxian economist who admits that he is in the extreme minority position, and that everyone disagrees with him.
This absolutely supports my point. Even a strong supporters of Marxian economics is saying that everyone disagrees with him, and that he is fringe.
the thesis of the article you quote is literally identical to the thesis of my posts -- that Marx is in fact influential on modern economics. Again, I don't want to be confrontational, but... did you read the article you're quoting? The thesis is literally the opposite of what you claim it is.
> "Few economists doubt that Marx flunked economics"
The rest of that paragraph reads as follows:
But this column argues that Marx’s representation of the power relationship between capital and labour in the firm is an essential insight for understanding and improving modern capitalism. Indeed, this insight is incorporated into standard principal–agent models of labour and credit markets.
So the article you are quoting for support states that Marxist ideas are incorporated into standard models. Not directly, of course, but there. Kinda like how Newtonian ideas are in some sense incorporated into standard model...
Let's continue.
> "Economists, looking back, have not found much to admire in Karl Marx"
And then the entire next paragraph makes literally exactly the same argument I'm making here -- that Marx is obsolete and even what he was trying to do in terms of "generalized models" is obsolete -- but that he none-the-less does effect modern economics:
These assessments are based largely on our current – and correct in my view – understanding of Marx’s labour theory of value as a pioneering, but inconsistent and outdated, attempt at a general equilibrium model of pricing and distribution. But there is another aspect of his work that has been strongly vindicated by theoretical advances in recent decades: the idea that the exercise of power is an essential aspect of the working of the capitalist economy, even in its idealised, perfectly competitive, state.
TBH, it looks like the best source you can muster for your claims is making substantively exactly the same argument I'm making.... Marx's theories are flawed but clearly continue to effect work-a-day economics to this day.