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The nature of the H1B being tied to a single place of employment is ludicrous though. It enables a power dynamic where these workers are basically indentured servants. This dynamic is a detriment to both these workers and their native counterparts.

Once an H1B is offered it should remain in place for some set time period, with procedures in place to address fraud either in the case of the company or employee.




This is the singular easiest change that would make lives for H1B employees easier. Even immigration-averse countries like European ones work this way.

Give us a general work visa that let's us work for N years instead of making us puppets of the company we are currently working for.


Isn't a H1B visa literally for a single job that's not able to be filled? It's not a work permit for working any specialist job, companies need to justify the need specifically


Can we stop pretending that's true? Like there are really jobs that are sooooo unique that NO Americans have the skills and only some foreign worker unicorns can fulfill them?

H1Bs are just skilled worker visas, let's stop with the charade that they're anything else.


If you want to stop that charade, you need to admit that H1Bs are frequently abused and are used to depress the salaries of American workers.


> If you want to stop that charade, you need to admit that H1Bs are frequently abused and are used to depress the salaries of American workers.

100% agree, which is why I'm saying they shouldn't be tied to a single employer, which just helps employers in general acquire a more compliant, docile work force.


I agree with this, but the best way to fix that is to remove some of the restrictions on the H1b workers so that they are not as easy to exploit.

I also favor dutch auction allocation.

That, and ban all of the body shops using them.

BTW, I have worked somewhere where H1b was knowingly abused and used to reduce the average wage.


There is a wide gap between the two extremes of "H1B is merely abuse" and "H1B is only for Nobel prize type savants".

Do you know there is no general work visa at all in America, whereby a skilled person can come based on their merit and work in the US?


> Do you know there is no general work visa at all in America, whereby a skilled person can come based on their merit and work in the US?

There are a whole lot of (both immigrant and non-immigrant) work-related skill-based visas in the US immigration system. It's true there is no one generic such visa, but that's because the US immigration systems doesn't use a small number of broad visa types but a large number of hyperspecific ones.


You are correct that there is no geneneral non-immigrant work visa but there are general skilled immigrant visas (EB1A and EB2-NIW).


The point is that if that particular job disappears, the visa holder, a human being, often with family, is put in a difficult circumstance which requires adjustment.


Yes, it disgusts me how some of our fellow engineers are controlled and manipulated due to their visa status. Meanwhile, non-H1B engineers can speak out about anything, and become uncooperative when asked do something perceived as idiotic, immoral, or even possibly illegal. I've seen other folks go ballistic on conference calls and emails due to one ridiculous thing or another. When you basically have a knife hanging over your head... potential deportation, disruption of your life and your family's... it is very different. You can't take those risks.


> This dynamic is a detriment to both these workers and their native counterparts.

Yeah, but it's great for the large companies hiring them.




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