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Could it also be that they are counting flu as something else?

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> Could it also be that they are counting flu as something else?

The article raises that question, but it does not reach this conclusion. In particular, it states:

>> [In the six countries with robust data] the total number of influenza tests has fallen by just 20%, while the share of tests that have come up positive has plummeted to record lows.

It appears to be a legitimate effect.


The UK'S Office of National Statistics (ONS) just showed that since June, UK influenza deaths are higher than Covid deaths. If this is true, then wearing masks has no effect on deaths from airborne viral transmission. And it might explain why The Economist is trying to shift the narrative.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...


The data you link would not support your conclusion. It’s not flu season in UK, so the constant low rate is within normal variation, even if mask-wearing is impacting decreased flu transmission. You’re talking about ~100 deaths for each covid and flu in the time period cited, and for covid (which so far doesn’t have a cycle like flu) the effect on decreasing is very stark.

In other words, this particular data would have nothing to say. It’s consistent with random variation of off-season flu, it’s also consistent with masks having a big effect on reducing covid spread (especially with covid’s much higher transmission rate and airborne properties), and it’s also consistent with some third exogenous factor causing the covid reduction in a way that has no bearing on flu.


If one of two airborne transmissions remains within normal variation while the other drops significantly, then masks had an insignificant effect.

The more plausible explanation is that mask wearing had a tiny impact on both covid and flu. The reduction in covid results from something else. Not everything has to do with masks. Masks don't discriminate between flu and covid.


> “ If one of two airborne transmissions remains within normal variation while the other drops significantly, then masks had an insignificant effect.”

Statistically speaking, it’s a large error to assert this or draw this conclusion.

There are too many confounders, the hugest being that it’s not flu season there and the sample size is way too low to have confidence in any conclusion based on the UK flu sample. Given the significance of the data in southern hemisphere countries, it suggests there is an effect on flu transmission and the UK data (by confounders and small sample) are consistent with that possibility.

> “Masks don't discriminate between flu and covid.”

That’s right - suggesting a big effect on reducing both, with confounders that would make such a comparison meaningless if you tried to make it in a country like UK right now.


Yep, there's a fair amount of overlap between CoVID and the usual ILI, with CoVID being misdiagnosed resulting in things like this: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 where the US either had the worst flu season in decades... or undiagnosed CoVID deaths.


The flu test results are way lower. So it’s most likely under counted COVID deaths if we were to apply the Australian results to the US.




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