I recall listening to her on EconTalk and being struck by how baseless and unconvincing she sounded - as though she was just stringing together hysteria and buzzwords without any reasoning.

Russ is a very skilled interviewer, and she seemed unable to answer basic questions, seemed like you really only needed to take a second to reflect on what she said and push her a bit on the logic, etc. and it fell apart. Just a constant stream of vague flowing speech.

https://www.econtalk.org/shoshana-zuboff-on-surveillance-cap...