As of right now, I believe the general consensus is that it's not effective (or at least not more effective than standard treatment). However, if you went back just a few weeks you'd have seen quite a few credible people claiming it could very well be a gamechanger. It says something that Trump was taking it, because even if you dislike the man it's hard to imagine there is any other human being on the planet with greater access to the world's best doctors and whatever bleeding edge technology could be used.
That said, I was really highlighting a recent example of how poor communication is, and how fast opinion can shift.
> As of right now, I believe the general consensus is that it's not effective (or at least not more effective than standard treatment). However, if you went back just a few weeks you'd have seen quite a few credible people claiming it could very well be a gamechanger.
I'm sorry, does this address the comment at all? There was indeed, this spring, real scientific debate over the potential efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. But the raging Twitter wars over it did not constitute that debate.
I was asked if there's consensus regarding the effectiveness of HCQ. Currently, there is not. Not long ago, medical professionals were recommending it and there was, at least publicly, a consensus of sorts based on the positive results of early studies.
I then pointed out how fast consensus shifted from 'this stuff is awesome' to 'this stuff is stupid' because I believe it's relevant for anyone trying to formulate their own opinion about how solid that consensus really is.
The twitter wars and the general terrible communication online is a totally separate topic, and the one I was originally commenting on because /u/gbrown seemed to have a more positive outlook than I do on the subject.
I mean, he probably has unparalleled access to the world's greatest mechanical and hydrological engineers if he wants it, but still seems noticeably confused about how toilets and dishwashers behave. The issue with Trump isn't that he doesn't have access to expertise; it's that he ignores it.
It's not a claim, it's an arguably stupid question to some guy off-screen. Yet, the title of this video is "President Trump claims injecting people with disinfectant could treat coronavirus". The outlet is the presumably reputable "Telegraph".
Trump also never called Nazis "fine people". What actually was said:
The job of the media is to fabricate outrage and scandals, because that's how you get attention. Trump doesn't even mind, in fact he is taking advantage of it:
Remember when he "accidentally" mistook WWI for WWII in some press conference? The headline: "Another dumb thing that Trump said!"
However, it's a mistake that anybody - particularly average Joe - could've made. It's not really that negative, in fact it could be endearing to some people.
More importantly though, that headline is going to take attention away from actually negative news, such as "over a thousand American Coronavirus deaths occuring every day".
So, if you think Trump is really that stupid, maybe you're not really that smart.
No he didn't, you fell victim to the fake news media.
During one of the press conferences, he asked some scientist or doctor guy if disinfectants can kill viruses on surface, would it be possible to create an injection that works like a disinfectant cleaning the body. He never said people should do that on their own.
That said, I was really highlighting a recent example of how poor communication is, and how fast opinion can shift.