Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

Many non-IBM mainframe vendors switched to software emulation on more mainstream platforms-nowadays mainly Linux or Windows on x86, but in the past SPARC and Itanium were also common choices. What you saw may have been an instance of that. A software emulator can often run legacy mainframe applications much faster than the hardware they were originally written for did.

(With Unisys specifically, at one point they still made physical CPUs for high end models, but low end models were software emulation on x86; Iā€™m not sure what they are doing right now.)




I don't know the details (~20 years ago), but pretty sure you hit the nail on the head. I think one of the boxes I saw were a hybrid -- Xeons with some sort of custom memory controller.

It was my first exposure to this sort of thing, and I was taken aback by the costs of this stuff, which made the Sun gear I worked with look extremely cheap :)


> I was taken aback by the costs of this stuff, which made the Sun gear I worked with look extremely cheap :)

Given the shrinking market share of mainframes, the only way for vendors to continue to make money is to increase prices on those customers who remain ā€“ which, of course, gives them greater encouragement to migrate away, but for some customers the migration costs are going to be so high that it is still cheaper to pay megabucks to the mainframe vendor than do that migration. With emulated systems like the ones you saw, the high costs are not really for the hardware, they are for the mainframe emulation software, mainframe operating system, etc, but it is all sold together as a package.

At least IBM mainframes have a big enough history of popularity, that there are a lot of tools out there (and entire consulting businesses) to assist with porting IBM mainframe applications to more mainstream platforms. For the remaining non-IBM mainframe platforms (Unisys, Bull, Fujitsu, etc), a lot less tools and skilled warm bodies are available, which I imagine could make these platforms more expensive to migrate away from than IBM's.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: