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> China puts their own citizens in concentration camps.

The usual counterpoint here is the US incarceration rate.



A prison is not a concentration camp, US has a justice system with the right to trial and appeal, and if the people in prison actually committed crimes then I'm not sure what the problem is.


When a fifteen year old can be put into prison for years in some U.S. states for some weed it hardly makes makes the U.S. look like it values human rights. It’s more akin to the U.S. being ‘the skinniest kid in fat camp.’ Congratulations on being better than China and Saudi Arabia I guess...


> When a fifteen year old can be put into prison for years in some U.S. states for some weed it hardly makes makes the U.S. look like it values human rights.

Would like to see some examples of this, and numbers of this. I really doubt this is widespread.

And further, if it does happen, it would have to get through prosecutors, jury, governors, etc - all of who will completely eaten alive by the press if the kid could even be misinterpreted to be a minority in the USA and the whole world would know about it. Where if someone mentions China is not exactly a good actor we get a whataboutism shitstorm.


There were judges that were convicted of sending black kids to for profit prisons they held stock in. Believing there isn't systemic racism in the prosecutorial system at this point is the same as believing there isn't systemic racism in policing. Just because you aren't personally affected doesn't mean a problem isn't wide spread.

This has nothing to do with the topic at hand and was another whataboutism off shoot from the main topic.


Many people in prison in the US did not commit the crime they were accused of; thanks to wildly inflated sentencing, many people choose a 1-year plea bargain over a 10-15 year roll of the dice.


> Many people in prison in the US did not commit crimes;

By all means cite %, and still does not make it a concentration camp.

Further the DAs are themselves elected locally in many jurisdictions or appointed by locally elected officials and people can vote for change if they want it.


Still not even remotely comparable to the legal system in communist China.

This whataboutism really needs to stop.


Even people in concentration camps went through legal proceedings of sorts. See e.g. the infamous Article 58 of Soviet penal code.

You can always tweak law to make criminal out of anyone inconvenient. Wasn't Assange's consensual sex relegated to rape?


> You can always tweak law to make criminal out of anyone inconvenient.

And this would be immoral and if you are suggesting the US is doing this you would need to actually back that up.

> Wasn't Assange's consensual sex relegated to rape?

Even if it was, that is not an example of tweaking the law to make a criminal out of anyone inconvenient, it is a case of tweaking the truth to fit the definition of something which is a crime, and should be a crime.


There's also indefinite detention and family separations at temporary immigration detention facilities.

Most of the people in the US who make a stink about the Uighurs and forget about US human rights transgressions would quickly forget about the Uighurs if they moved in next door.




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