Weird, I'm not sure why so many people think an overuse of USB-C on Apple's computers disproves your accusation of NIH Syndrome for iPhones/iPads. To the point of downvoting you, even!
> I’m not sure why so many people think an overuse of USB-C on Apple’s computers […]
The point is GP stated any use would be unlike Apple. I quote: “We'll probably never see USB-C from Apple”.
That’s what people are downvoting, a plainly disapproval assertion.
Your ‘overuse’ crack doesn’t jibe well with the suggestion of NIH syndrome; USB-C is an industry standard and all vendors should be and are adopting it. Lightning was invented before USB-C and solved issues that standards of the day (2010), including the various USB connectors, did not for another 5 to 6 years.
HN users have a tendency to downvote things that are easily unproven.
The context is the stuff that uses lightning. Taking it so literally, to the point of downvoting, is definitely not in the spirit of "strongest plausible interpretation".
So, sure, the ipad pro has USB-C, and that's worth pointing out as a minor note. But the reason iPhone doesn't use it is in very large part a combination of stubbornness from being first and NIH.
> Your ‘overuse’ crack doesn’t jibe well with the suggestion of NIH syndrome; USB-C is an industry standard and all vendors should be and are adopting it.
All laptops should have multiple USB-C ports. But getting rid of every single type A port is putting too much emphasis on C.
> Lightning was invented before USB-C and solved issues that standards of the day (2010), including the various USB connectors, did not for another 5 to 6 years.
Are you comparing the invention date of lightning to the widespread adoption of USB-C? Because USB-C was announced in 2013 and almost certainly qualifies as 'invented' in 2012 if not earlier. And there were devices sporting it in 2014, only two years after lightning devices.
So the iPad Pro's USB-C port in its current and previous generations immediately refutes GP.
> Taking it so literally, to the point of downvoting, is definitely not in the spirit of "strongest plausible interpretation".
Discussion about down votes is also in contradiction with the HN guidelines. I prefer we didn't start quoting the guidelines, though; that only detracts further.
Making an assertion in contradiction with the truth isn’t an opinion, it’s just flat out false. People can react how best they see fit, and some have chosen to downvote, possibly because they think a false assertion doesn’t meaningfully contribute; others like me prefer to leave a comment.
But complaining about downvotes isn’t a useful contribution either. I just felt, again, like commenting.
Point is GP was wrong. Value judgements about how many ports Apple puts in its laptops is entirely superfluous to that point.
> So the iPad Pro's USB-C port in its current and previous generations immediately refutes GP.
In my experience many of the people who have an eternally tight clutch on their pearls where Apple is concerned barely actually know anything about the company's product lineup.
Yeah, there is one exception in the product stack after many years.
But they're still sticking super hard to lightning, making everything more complicated than it needs to be.
> But complaining about downvotes isn’t a useful contribution either. I just felt, again, like commenting.
That was just an afterthought in my post, to show how extremely people were interpreting the post, despite there being a very valid point if you read it at 80% intensity instead of 100% intensity. The point of my post was valid discussion of Apple.
