> When I first was learning Common Lisp I was appalled at the tolerance on Usenet comp.lang.lisp of arrogance, hostility, intimidation and other anti-social behavior of the presumed ‘smartest guys in the room’. I was determined (a) that the Clojure community would not be hosted there and (b) that kind of behavior would not be tolerated.
Thank you, Rich Hickey!
The persistent data structures and functional core library are great, but many would not bother with Clojure if they had to deal with the toxicity that is present in the Common Lisp community.
Comp.lang.lisp was awful, and the trend somewhat continues even though it has gotten better. Looking through newb threads on various lisp forums there are a few people that always seem to try their best to be mean or funny on someone else's expense.
It is not that hard: if someone writes awful code, point them in the right direction. Don't claim they have malfunctioning brains.
I stopped writing CL a few years ago even though I enjoyed it. For my personal stuff scheme is even more fun, and the communities are a lot more pleasant.
Thank you, Rich Hickey!
The persistent data structures and functional core library are great, but many would not bother with Clojure if they had to deal with the toxicity that is present in the Common Lisp community.