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You can have your cake and eat it too. For example, react’s functional components are both good in product terms and good in technical terms. C#, JavaScript, python, swift and others have lots of tools for programming in a more functional style.

And java isn’t where all the ‘stuff gets done’ - well, outside of the enterprise programming bubble. JavaScript and (surprisingly) python are the workhorses of the modern startup ecosystem. I can’t speak with certainty about python, but separating logic and data, and using immutability with stateless components and functions is all very common in the JavaScript world.




I didn't intend to sound like I meant that Java is where the stuff gets done but rather that 'stuff gets done' using non-ideal languages, frameworks, tools, context etc.

C, C++, Java, Python, JavaScript, C#, even PHP are not exactly ideal, even in their special niches, but a lot of real world stuff, if not most 'stuff' gets done using that.




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