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That's the thin end of the wedge happening. Once you're ok with this, then they scope creep.



Wait what? I wish people would make up their minds on this. They have gotten a warrant. That's how law enforcement is supposed to work.

Being against warrantless tapping is not the same thing.


There are a lot of mixed up discussions going on here. Some people are generally anti-law enforcement, some are against warrantless wiretapping, others are concerned about backdoors from a technical perspective. I'm with you though I'm not sure being against warrants is a sensible position.


most folks are ok with warrants if used judiciously and sparingly when the evidence is compelling and the potential (societal) good overwhelmingly outweighs the (individual) harms. but we've been sliding down that slippery slope for decades now, and it's unclear that many (most?) warrants meet any sensible criteria, instead treading into paranoid, corrupt, and vindictive territories.

like most things, it's not a black & white issue.


I think we need to remember the fact that the FISA court was a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intellig...


I think you can support a search with a warrant, and support privacy.


Yep, except when it's for some politics own privacy. No stronger motivation than that to pass privacy-conscious bills next time.


Why wouldn't someone be okay with this? If he's committed the crime you want the evidence...




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